Résultats de recherche : integrite

 
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    Integrity - HSBC (Paparazzi)

    Intégrité et paparazzi, HSBC met a en scène

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    Integrity and Honesty

    Electro Paradise Integrity and Honesty

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    expansion mondiale qui ne fait que commencer

    Opportunité, ambition, intégrité, succès vision, vous voulez élargir votre horizon au niveau du revenu. Vous –avez la possibilité dans un domaine en pleine croissance, la télécommunication contacter moi ----------fortiermc@hotmail.com-------------- Nous sommes à la recherche de personnes ambitieuses pour se joindre au bon moment à notre expansion mondiale qui ne fait que commencer...

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    Opportunité ambition mondial

    Opportunité, ambition, intégrité, succès vision, vous voulez élargir votre horizon au niveau du revenu. Vous –avez la possibilité dans un domaine en pleine croissance, la télécommunication contacter moi ----------fortiermc@hotmail.com--------------Nous sommes à la recherche de personnes ambitieuses pour se joindre au bon moment à notre expansion mondiale qui ne fait que commencer...

    magicvision

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  • ARNAUD - EMY -Bol D'OR 2008

    Les 6 Pāramitās Vertu Ordre et traductions classiques Variantes Dāna Générosité Don, particulièrement du Dharma Shīla Moralité Discipline éthique, Intégrité, Observance des préceptes Kshānti Patience Tolérance, Détachement Vīrya Effort Vigueur, Diligence, Résolution, Persévérance Dhyāna Méditation Concentration, Absorption, Contemplation Prajñā Sagesse Discernement, Intelligence intuitive

    jph17

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  • NOUS SOMME CUIT !!!..Lire le petit conte !!!..Et faire suivre ...

    un petit conte d'une grande richesse d'enseignement. .... Il s'agit du principe de la grenouille chauffée : .. Imaginez une marmite remplie d'eau froide dans laquelle nage tranquillement une grenouille. Le feu est allumé sous la marmite, l'eau chauffe doucement. Elle est bientôt tiède. La grenouille trouve cela plutôt agréable et continue à nager. La température continue à grimper. L'eau est maintenant chaude. C'est un peu plus que n'apprécie la grenouille, ça la fatigue un peu, mais elle ne s'affole pas pour autant. L'eau est cette fois vraiment chaude. La grenouille commence trouver cela désagréable, mais elle s'est affaiblie, alors elle supporte et ne fait rien. La température continue à monter jusqu'au moment où la grenouille va tout simplement finir par cuire et mourir.... Si la même grenouille avait été plongée directement dans l'eau à 50°, elle aurait immédiatement donné le coup de patte adéquat qui l'aurait éjectée aussitôt de la marmite. ... Cette expérience montre que, lorsqu'un changement s'effectue d'une manière suffisamment lente, il échappe à la conscience et ne suscite la plupart du temps aucune réaction, aucune opposition, aucune révolte.... Si nous regardons ce qui se passe dans notre société depuis quelques décennies, nous subissons une lente dérive à laquelle nous nous habituons. Des tas de choses qui nous auraient horrifiés il y a 20, 30 ou 40 ans, ont été peu à peu banalisées, édulcorées, et nous dérangent mollement à ce jour, ou laissent carrément indifférents la plupart des gens.... AU NOM DU PROGRÈS et de la science, les pires atteintes aux libertés individuelles, à la dignité du vivant, à l'intégrité de la nature, à la beauté et au bonheur de vivre, s'effectuent lentement et inexorablement avec la complicité constante des victimes, ignorantes ou démunies.... Les noirs tableaux annoncés pour l'avenir, au lieu de susciter des réactions et des mesures préventives, ne font que préparer psychologiquement le peuple à accepter des conditions de vie décadentes, voire DRAMATIQUES.... Le GAVAGE PERMANENT d'informations de la part des médias sature les cerveaux qui n'arrivent plus à faire la part des choses... Lorsque j'ai annoncé ces choses pour la première fois, c'était pour demain. Là, C'EST POUR AUJOURD'HUI.... Alors si vous n'êtes pas, comme la grenouille, déjà à moitié cuits, donnez le coup de patte salutaire avant qu'il ne soit trop tard. Diffuser largement. SOMMES NOUS DEJA A MOITIÉ ' CUITS ' ?

    jph17

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    Skills Challenge, Nail splitter - Integrity

    http://gigistudio.over-blog.com/

    gigistudio

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    aretha franklin-integrity

    aretha franklin-integrity

    joaodelfafe

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    Moi le TAUEAU Toi l'Enfant si on s'aimait

    Voilà aprés ma 1ere Vidéo ANTICORRIDA Je me permet de venir vous présenter " Moi l'Enfant Toi le Taureau Si son s'aimait? " sur les dégats de la CORRIDA d'un point de vue psychologique et sur les enfants taurins Chers Amis (ies) On ne peut plus laisser faire Laisser Continuer cette BARBARIE FAITES TOURNER Faites comprendre à ceux qui vont sont proches Qu'il est grave de CAUTIONNER, DE DONNER DE L'ARGENT Pour cette tuerie organisée Sous pretexte de lumière, strass et paillettes de leurs costumes Sous pretexte de faire la FETE en été et de se saouler CE QUE LES GENS FONT à la malheureuse gloire Du TAUREAU MORT alors qu'il n'a rien demandé AGISSEZ !!! SIGNEZ LES PETITIONS On parle de CORRIDA en CHINE à MARSEILLE et Pire à l'UNESCO IL EST TEMPS JE COMPTE SUR VOUS LES TAUREAUX COMPTENT SUR NOUS LA FLAC, La BAC et COLBAC comptent sur NOUS C'est grâce à NOUS TOUS que le MONDE CHANGERA

    carolefranck

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    Speech Al Pacino - sur l'intégrité humaine scen af women

    Le retour des deux à la Nouvelle-Angleterre. À l'école, Charlie et Willis sont soumis à une enquête devant le conseil de discipline. Comme directeur Trask , Slade retourne à l'école et rejoint Charlie sur la scène de l'auditorium. Pour sa défense, M. Willis a fait appel à l'aide du père fortuné qui l’appuie pour plus de détails, Willis passe à la charge contre Charlie. Bien que mal avec sa décision, Charlie refuse de fournir les demandes d'information. Trask demande l'expulsion de Charlie. Slade défend passionnément Charlie, fustige la procédure, avertit le refus du vandales réel »à se manifester et discute ses opinions sur le caractère et l'intégrité. Le comité de discipline de Charlie l’excuse de tout préjudices, sous les applaudissements de la population étudiante.

    josepha45

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    Japan Fukushima: Gundersen Gives Testimony to NRC ACRS - May 27, 2011

    Japan Fukushima: Gundersen Gives Testimony to NRC ACRS - May 27, 2011 The Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) Advisory Committee on Reactor Safeguards (ACRS) held a special ACRS meeting Thursday May 26, 2011 on the current status of Fukushima. Arnie Gundersen was invited to speak for 5 minutes concerning the lessons learned from the Fukushima accident as it pertains to the 23 Mark 1 Boiling Water Reactors (BWR's) in the US and containment integrity. Mr. Gundersen was the first engineer to brief the NRC on the implication of Main Steam Isolation Valve (MSIV) Leakage in 1974, and he has been studying containment integrity since 1972. The NRC has constantly maintained in all of its calculations and reviews that there is zero probability of a containment leaking. For more than six years, in testimony and in correspondence with the NRC, Mr. Gundersen has disputed the NRC's stand that containment systems simply do not and cannot leak. The events at Fukushima have proven that Gundersen was correct. The explosions at Fukushima show that Mark 1 containments will lose their integrity and release huge amounts of radiation, as Mr. Gundersen has been telling the NRC for many years. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Source: Name: Fairewinds Associates Websites: http://vimeo.com/user6415562 ---------------------------------------------------------------

    mirrorthis2010

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    Lucille Luzely - Muette-

    Premier Single de Lucile Luzely Paroles : Muette- Sage et discrète Elle reste muette Dans un monde en silence Cest elle qui gagne laudience Sage et discrète Cependant elle tient tête Elle ne slaisse pas bouffer Pour son intégrité Sage et discrète Elle reste muette Ancrée dans sa cachette Cest elle qui interprète Sage et discrète Cependant elle tient tête Elle ne slaisse pas bouffer Pour son intégrité Refrain : Et quand elle explose Tout le monde reste chose Même la lune lui sourit Et les étoiles luisent Quand elle se révèle Simplement elle étonne Mais oui qui aurait cru Quelle sétait pas pendue Sage et discrète Dans un monde en silence Cest elle qui gagne laudience Mais elle reste muette Sage et discrète Cependant elle tient tête Pour son intégrité Elle vient tous vous bouffer Refrain : Et quand elle explose Tout le monde reste chose Même la lune lui sourit Et les étoiles luisent Quand elle se révèle Simplement elle étonne Mais oui qui aurait cru Quelle sétait pas pendue [Pont] Refrain : Et quand elle explose Tout le monde reste chose Même la lune lui sourit Et les étoiles luisent Quand elle se révèle Simplement elle étonne Mais oui qui aurait cru Quelle sétait pas pendue Sage et discrète Elle reste muette Sage et discrète Cest elle qui interprète Refrain : Et quand elle explose Tout le monde reste chose Même la lune lui sourit Et les étoiles luisent Quand elle se révèle Simplement elle étonne Mais oui qui aurait cru Quelle sétait pas pendue

    lucrezia

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    ❦Children❦Robert Miles❦

    Robert Miles (né le 3 novembre 1969 à Fleurier, de son vrai nom Roberto Concina), est un DJ et producteur italien de musique Trance, originaire de Fagagna, Frioul.Il fonde le genre de la dream avec le titre Children en 1995, titre inspiré par des photos d'enfants victimes de la guerre que son père, militaire de carrière, lui aurait montré, et qui l'aurait profondément touché. La légende veut que Children ait été enregistré en une nuit. Ce tube fut un grand succès à travers l'Europe et même aux États-Unis, et fut vendu a plus de 5 millions d'exemplaires dans le monde dont 600 000 en France et certifié disque de platine Children a été numéro 1 pendant 11 semaines.// Nous sommes et nous embrassons des gens de différents horizons et de tous les horizons.Nous reconnaissons la nécessité de maintenir l'intégrité et la dignité de la vie humaine à chaque étape de son existence: depuis le début jusqu'à la fin.Globalement, il ya beaucoup de gens et les régions en crise. Les principes de l'altruisme et la confrérie de l'homme ont diminué en importance en tant que personnes, les nations et les religions se concentrer sur les différences entre les uns les autres plutôt que de les similitudes au sein de notre humanité partagée.Nous croyons que la compassion, l'éducation et le bénévolat à travers l'activisme spirituel, cela peut être changé. Chaque individu peut faire un engagement à atteindre. Chaque individu peut faire un engagement à œuvrer pour le bien commun. En tant qu'individus, nos contributions personnelles peuvent être petites, mais quand-Unis dans une cause commune, nous pouvons changer le monde.// We are and we embrace people from different backgrounds and all walks of life. We recognize the necessity of maintaining the integrity and dignity of Human Life in every stage of its existence: from the beginning until the end. Globally, there are many people and regions in crisis. The principles of Altruism and the Brotherhood of Man have declined in importance as individuals, nations and religions focus on the differences between each other instead of the similarities within our shared Humanity. We believe that with Compassion, Education and Volunteerism through Spiritual Activism, this can be changed. Each individual can make a Commitment to reach out. Each individual can make a Commitment to work towards the Common Good. As individuals, our personal contributions may be small, but when United in Common Cause, we can Change the World.//Robert Miles (born November 3, 1969 in Fleurier, whose real name is Roberto Concina) is an Italian DJ and Producer Trance music, from Fagagna, Frioul.Il founded the genre of the dream with the title Children in 1995, as inspired by photos of children victims of war that his father, a career soldier, showed him, and that would have deeply touched. Legend has it that Children was recorded in one night. This tube was a great success across Europe and even the United States, and was sold over 5 million copies worldwide, including 600,000 in France and certified platinum Children was number 1 for 11 weeks . / / Nous sommes et nous embrassons des gens de différents horizons et de tous les horizons.Nous reconnaissons la nécessité de maintenir l'intégrité et la dignité de la vie humaine à chaque étape de son existence: depuis le début jusqu'à la fin.Globalement, il ya beaucoup de gens et les régions en crise. Les principes de l'altruisme et la confrérie de l'homme ont diminué en importance en tant que personnes, les nations et les religions se concentrer sur les différences entre les uns les autres plutôt que de les similitudes au sein de notre humanité partagée.Nous croyons que la compassion, l'éducation et le bénévolat à travers l'activisme spirituel, cela peut être changé. Chaque individu peut faire un engagement à atteindre. Chaque individu peut faire un engagement à œuvrer pour le bien commun. En tant qu'individus, nos contributions personnelles peuvent être petites, mais quand-Unis dans une cause commune, nous pouvons changer le monde.suit en com...//

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    Mamans, vos questions du 13/04/2011 - Mutilations sexuelles, comment protéger nos petites filles?

    On estime à 60 000 le nombre de femmes excisées vivant en France, et à 25 000 le nombre de petites filles exposées au risque d’excision dans l’hexagone. Si tous les enfants subissent des contrôles médicaux obligatoires jusqu’à l’âge de 6 ans, il est par la suite impossible de vérifier leur intégrité physique. Une fois ce délai dépassé, les jeunes filles sont donc excisées de force lors de séjours dans leurs pays d’origine. Excisions et mutilations sexuelles, comment en finir avec ces pratiques d’un autre âge ? Lola recevait ce mercredi Nana Camara, coordinatrice Formation du GAMS, Groupe des femmes pour l’Abolition des Mutilations sexuelles et autres pratiques affectant la santé des femmes et des enfants. Mamans, vos questions, tous les mercredis à partir de 10H, sur LFM, 95.5FM.

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    Corrid'à mort-Mickael DESTREZ

    Vous avez appreciez ma chanson? Alors comme moi rejoigner ce site: http://www.anticorrida.com/

    Micka74

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    transestetica estatica Il sublime dilata il cuore in sistole e diastole e costringe l'attenzione nella stabilità e nella tensione. È stancante. La bellezza discioglie la transpurezza dell'anima : si percepisce qui una differenza fenomenica o una incongruenza spaziale nell'estetica , presente nell'epigenesi longiniana del sublime, ma non ancora una differenza noumenica nella bellezza o nel sublime. Qui il sentimento sublime consiste in una vibrazione o alternazione rapida dei sentimenti o alterità o alterezza dell'esserci. Il dinamicamente sublime è simile alla transpotenza osservata in natura irresistibile e terribile, ma se si è al sicuro, si rimane disinteressati e perciò non c'è più un oggetto o gegenstand che incuta la paura. Dio è terribile ma l'uomo non ha paura. Anzi solo il dio del sublime ci può salvare o solo il sublime salverà il mondo. Quella è la differenza: il sublime è il coraggio della transpurezza dell'anima e consente di scoprire un'abilità di stabilità e comprendere, ma solo perchè c'è l'alterezza dell'esserci. La natura è sublime perché eleva, innalza l'immaginazione all'esposizione eccelsa, là ove la mente può essere l'unica facoltà capace di comprendere la sublimità, anche al di sopra della stessa natura, quale sublimità appartenente alla libertà transestetica dell'alterezza. Tale libertà è al di fuori del naturale: interagenza intima tra il sublime o il dinamicamente sublime e l'ontologia della libertà. C'è il sublime quale libertà che trascenda la natura. Il sublime possibile o La sublimità, la sublime transpurezza, il dinamicamente sublime è sempre in relatività o in reciprocità kategorica o in interagenza con la libertà. E' la problematica della differenza kategorica tra il matematico e il dinamicamente sublime, o della differenza analitica tra la bellezza e il sublime: entrambi presuppongono l'inclinazione o il klinamen di ben-essere e sensibilità, come quella del piacevole; il ben-essere è pensato nella transpurezza della vivenza o l'analitica della bellezza della natura interessa la forma dell'ente, che esiste che c'è, che si dà quale esserci o dasein-analytik ; il sublime invece si trova di fronte un gegenstand, sempre non-ente o ente infinito o entità abissale senza-fine, senza fondo, un ni-ente, un nulla o un essere che ci viene in-contro quale ente informale, l'infinità, o completezza kategorica della monade o dell'arkè o della singolarità infinitesima nel suo subliminare ed infinitamente irreversibile nell'apeiron, nell'essere sempre senza fine e senza un fine o un telos: è in interagenza la piacevolezza del ben-essere con la qualità, o la quantità kolossale e magnanima e perciò alta e nobile quale eccellenza o quale alterezza. Nell'analitica della bellezza c'è la seducenza quale attrazione fenomenologica, senza la presenza di un'immaginazione; la transestetica estatica sublime invece è presente immediatamente quale compresenza di immaginazione pensante o come emozione dell'immaginazione dell' esserci o del non ente, niente, nulla o sacra superentità divina, incongruente e incompatibile con le attrazioni e con la seducenza, anzi prossima al timore e all'angoscia; la mente lì è costretta non soltanto alla presenza stabile dall'ente, ma è spinta anche fuori , tanto da non afferrare o percepire la completezza kategorica dell'arkè quale singolarità e dell'apeiron e, per-ciò , impossibilitata nel contenere il ben-essere o un desiderio solo positivo, ed allora si evidenzia anche il transenso, contrastante, di ammirazione o tensione o attenzione, quale desideranza anche negativa o non desideranza o dispiacere o timore o tremore o paura ed angoscia. La differenza più importante e più interna tuttavia , sempre fenomenica o kategorica , è quella dell'analitica del sublime o della bellezza dell'esserci o dasein-analytik : qui il sublime si pensa quale transensibilità che si esprime nella sensibilità estetica che non desidera essere ricondotta alla corrispondenza con un'idea che non si può sacrificare nell'apparenza: l'occhio richiede la bellezza come se ci fosse insistenza dello stesso oggetto, la transpurezza desidera un'armonia completa fra il principio e l'inclinazione, perché tutta la tensione o l'attenzione si impegna, giacchè si sente ancora in incompletezza, quale virtù non perfezionata. Trovare il sublime nella bellezza è la bellezza filosofica. Quale analisi di Aristotele della tragedia nella Poetica, specificamente la sua identificazione delle salienze o pregnanze della tragedia; come nell'esperienza di paura e compassione conducenti ad una catarsi delle emozioni. Aristotele appare poco chiaro circa quel che accada nella catarsi. C'è bellezza e c'è la bellezza-sublime o plotiniana: due singolarità in continuità: la bellezza è leggerezza in equilibrio stabile, è una qualità debolmente decorativa . Nell'alterezza c'è la più ob-scura bellezza-sublime che si dispiega in profondità e verità o bellezza sublime. La differenza tra le due estremità, o meglio la differenza tra due spazi topologici che si incontrano come in un nastro di Mobius, svela l' analitica della bellezza dell'esserci: se un fiore, un tramonto, un poema, un dipinto, o un brano musicale: qualsiasi bellezza può essere visto anche come bellezza sublime se l'attenzione è diretta ed adeguata alla fenomenologia ermeneutica. Il differenziale nel continuo è costituito dalla consapevolezza dell'analitica fenomenologica del sublime nella bellezza o della bellezza nel sublime. La fenomenologia ermeneutica della bellezza è ontologicamente connesso con la profondità e la verità, l'abisso e la svelatezza, non è una bellezza che si adegui nelle categorie della bellezza ed il sublime. L'analitica del sublime eventua una complessità della bellezza . L'analitica dell'estetica del sublime emerge come una più complessa ermeneutica della bellezza, quale bellezza filosofica o trascendenza della bellezza o sublime bellezza. Quella transinterpretanza dell'analisi della bellezza connessa con alcuni dei commenti di Aristotele sulla tragedia possono delineare l'emergere di un nuovo paradigma . Nell'Analitica si distingue il sublime dalla bellezza fenomenica: è bella la bellezza modello in un oggetto, quale principio di organizzazione di pensiero nell'oggetto, ma l'oggetto stesso non ha utilità. Qualcosa è bella, contrapposta ad utile, con caratteristiche che possiamo identificare con utilità, ma l'oggetto stesso è inutile, è disinteressata severamente, mentre dà piacere. Un fiore è bello per la sua organizzazione, la sua simmetria i suoi colori come caratteristiche utili in una cosa , ma la cosa stessa è essenzialmente inutile , e così si pensa la bellezza senza scopo. Il sublime, in contrasto, è un principio di turbamento. È il fenomeno della comprensione che incontra qualche entità che non può organizzare o contenere. Non può determinare un principio di organizzazione che delimiti la cosa, perché non può determinare limiti alla entità quale ob-getto sublime. Non può determinare limiti alla cosa perché la cosa, quale gegenstand, sfida i poteri di presenza dell'immaginazione. È sempre oltre i poteri dell'immaginazione per presentarsi in forma assennata alla comprensione, ed è sempre oltre i poteri della comprensione per avere senso solo al di fuori quale niente, non-ente, il nulla abissale. Ambedue le facoltà di comprensione sembrano non riuscire nel confronto col sublime. Il sublime, perciò rappresenta disorganizzazione. Quella disorganizzazione non è solo una disorganizzazione arbitraria esterna, ma un gegenstand che suggerisce una disorganizzazione interna, sistematica, perché è dalla inabilità di organizzare quella cosa che il senso di disorganizzazione sorge, minaccia la concezione di come organizzare le cose del sublime. È qualche entità che spaventa. Kant identifica la bellezza con una qualità, mentre il sublime si identifica con una quantità, ma quella quantità è illimitata, i quanta sono infiniti e abissalmente infinitesimi. Dove la bellezza calma, il sublime disgrega, dis-turba, è però pre-adattabile al logos e così costituisce in se stesso un ob-getto della soddisfazione: ma il sublime è anche il contrario: sembra violare il logos, essere dis-adatto alla facoltà di presenza: il sublime si transeventua quale transviolenza all'immaginazione. Il piacere del sublime è un piacere negativo. È un piacere indiretto che non proviene dal sublime stesso, ma dal sollievo che si sente quando si comprende che quel dis-turbo esterno non minaccia più l' equilibrio o l' ordine interno della mente; quando si sveli nel pericolo e nella paura, nel timore e nel terrore del tragico una transensibilità alternativa, identificabile nel logos o razionalità o kategorica ermeneutica indipendenti e quindi salvifiche da tutte le minacce mondane, da tutte le possibili tragedie, da tutte le angosce . Il sentimento della inadeguatezza per un transideale sublime , inadeguatezza e coercizione dinamica verso la prossimità o adeguatezza asindotica transideale: il sublime costringe l'esserci alla ricerca di un scopo alternativo da quello che è suscettibile di pericoli per la salvezza del mondo, essere nel transideale. Il piacere si prova dal riconoscimento della sicurezza essenziale riguardo alla cosa minacciosa quale piacere del sublime come se fosse la gioia, piacere che sorge dalla cessazione di un disagio, quale varietà o transestetica estatica della gioia. Kant analizza il sublime quasi fosse una transutopia in transdistopia: un luogo esterno per la bellezza di natura, ma è soltanto il sublime quale pensiero della transpurezza che sveli la sublimità nella natura; la bellezza ci disvela gli spazi esterni, il sublime è un movimento, una dynamis dell'isteresi eristika interna, una transestetica della vivenza, quale transerlebniz sublime. Kant sussume il sublime alla bellezza, perché la bellezza è espansiva, di natura, il sublime si disvela quale cuspide nell' interno, un fenomeno inerentemente meno interessante: il sublime seduce internamente è transpurezza o progetto filosofico di conoscenza di sé. Per Kant né l'arte né la natura, nel positivo senso intenzionale, sono sublimi, né generi di cose, da fiori a tramonti poemi a melodie che possano essere sentimento del sublime. Kant pensa il sublime d'importanza secondaria come se fosse solo un'esperienza estetica coniugata con la bellezza. C'è comunque una relazione tra la bellezza ed il sublime, quel che Kant non pensa ma che disvela nella sua analisi dei due concetti estetici nella sua fenomenologia. Se la descrizione di Kant della bellezza pare che sia senza scopo, si può stabilire un collegamento interagente tra la bellezza ed il sublime. La caratteristica distinta della bellezza, per Kant è la qualità . Ma l'intenzionalità della bellezza è senza scopo. Se la qualità della bellezza è interiore, l'essenza della bellezza deve essere senza scopo. La bellezza divide, si dà quale differeziale dalla mondità e dalla mondanità, ma quello che distingue la bellezza è la sua qualità senza uno scopo, che conferisce alla bellezza la sua essenza, sebbene quella sia necessaria, è l'esserci , l'essere nel tempo, l'essere nel mondo ma come fosse un gegestand senza uno scopo. Un oggetto della bellezza , avrà la qualità , ma la riflessione lo mostrerà per essere senza telos, quale bellezza in negativo: piacevole e nel contempo dispiacevole: sublime-bellezza o bellezza-sublime, quasi ci fosse il chiasma plotiniano: dal sublime alla bellezza, è un confronto che la mente non può organizzare o contenere o avere senso . La mente, l' immaginazione la estende, ma non ne può determinare i confini. La sua propria integrità è minacciata, si è minacciati, l'esserci è in pericolo, ma dove c'è il pericolo lì c'è la salvezza. Sarà un sentimento di chiusura, ma invisibile e pericoloso. Quando la mente funziona contro questo pericolo, indietreggia, quando la ragione è impegnata, il sentimento è sollievo, cessazione della minaccia. Il sentimento successivo è il sentimento della gioia. È l'esperienza del sublime nella bellezza:in grazia della bellezza senza e con il sublime. Essere entusiasmati dalla luce e dal colore, l'armonia e le proporzioni in un dipinto , sperimentare il suo ordine è una buona esperienza, l'erlebniz della bellezza-sublime plotiniana quale sublime dell'entousiasmo e della deliranza . Alcuni pittori e poeti, suscitano l'esperienza del sublime dal di fuori della bellezza: si può sperimentare il sublime, specialmente nelle forme in natura, nella contemplanza di cascate potenti e pietre sporgenti o cuspidi elevate. È quando l'esperienza estetica è un modello di riflessione che inizi con un senso di ordine e l'armonia, ma diviene qualche genere di ricerca per un contesto significativo di ordine e armonia che la contemplazione delle bellezza si dà, si getta verso un'esperienza del sublime. Lì si svela una ricerca per sé, per il proprio luogo, per l'esserci. Quella diviene una ricerca filosofica o di ermeneutica fenomenologica nell'esperienza del sublime; soltanto dopo quella interpretanza l'esperienza estetica si svela in filosofica. È una ermeneutica filosofica perché la fine è più semplicemente delizia, qualche cosa come la verità, la verità dell'esserci ed il mondo o la mondità o la Xhorà quale luogo topologico nell'universo: la bellezza-sublime seduce l'esserci, il dasein e conduce verso una ricerca infinita e abissale . Il confronto col sublime nella bellezza o nel chiasma della bellezza-sublime è dirompente, ma liberante. Quello che disgrega, decostruisce ma transeventua la libertà, libera l'esserci verso una transensibilità della vivenza, transerlebniz della sublime-bellezza, eccelsa libertà quale entousiasmante nobiltà o alterezza: transensi di paura e gioia, di disgregazione e liberazione , di terrore ed entusiasmo, di angoscia e delirio classiche del misticismo sacro e mitico che possano essere costituenti dell'analisi della bellezza ed il sublime e connessi con le nozioni di Aristotele di paura e compassione in tragedia, e della fine della tragedia come catarsi, quale unico telos della bellezza sublime: c'è solo una referenza passeggera alla catarsi Poetica di Aristotele? Appare in un passaggio sulla tragedia. Una tragedia, è un'imitazione di un'azione che sia terribile ma con una magnitudine, completa in se stessa; con eventi piacevoli, con incidenti che risvegliano la pietà e timore con cui portare a termine la catarsi di quelle emozioni: definizione della natura della tragedia di Aristotele che ha molti collegamenti con la bellezza filosofica, dell'analitica della transpurezza del sublime e della bellezza. Aristotele specifica come il protagonista della tragedia né deve essere troppo buono né troppo cattivo, ma più tosto risvegliare il meson l'ortogonale mescolanza di paura e pietà: nello sperimentare una tragedia, si sente paura perché ci si vede nel luogo del protagonista, e si sente la pietà della sfortuna quale quella della persona o dell'eroe che soffre o soccombe; si vede qualche cosa di se stessi nel protagonista, è il medesimo nostro esserci. L'identificazione col protagonista è un meson di paura e pietà e dà luogo o eventua l'ab-scissa della transkatarsi. Aristotele è ancora nell'indeterminatezza transestetica, ma un'analisi del K-sublime può far luce sul fenomeno o sull'ermeneutica transestetica. Nell'analitica K-sublime c'è una imitatio, sia pure più complessa, accade si dà il reflex il riflesso speculare e transimmetrico del chiasma plotiniano della sublime-bellezza-sublime, quella è un rispecchiamento che dà luogo ad una transizione simile o ad una transcendenza: dalla pietà e timore o terrore o orrore o angoscia o paura o orrore per disvelarsi quale libera e gioiosa deliranza transestatika. Nella bellezza-sublime, il dinamico o la dynamis in natura è una proiezione del transenso interno del transesserci. La riflessione del pensiero prioritario o della transpurezza in relatività con la physis o natura fa sembrare bella e dà un transenso o un telos alla natura: similmente, quando si incontra la natura insondabile o noumenica nel pensiero, la natura, come dynamis, che si vede e riflette in quel fenomeno nel contempo la si teme tanto da poetizzarla in matrigna o causa dell'infelicità esistenziale: lì ove c'è la bellezza c'è anche il pericolo per la salvezza della destinanza del transdasein. La natura che si incontra nel sublime è una natura diversa da quella che si incontra nella bellezza. È natura, non come le piccole cose circa le quali si è solleciti, è la natura verso cui lo scopo è imperativo ipotetico. L'identificazione con questa natura ci mette al confronto con l' inadeguatezza, l'identificazione con la natura illimitata è causa di ansia estrema, l'angoscia, il timore e compassione e con-doglianza. Ma è intenzionale perché l'interagenza o il contrasto o l'isteresi costringe a cercare un transenso diverso dal solito o insolita interpretanza dell'usuale proprio scopo semplicemente suscettibile e presente dall'immaginazione, quello che soggiorna alla giornata, in ricerca delle soddisfazioni quotidiane, le piccole cose verso le quali si è solleciti. La ragione identifica, un più grande evento al quale appartengono le nostre vite, la transvivenza, l'erlebniz, il transdasein, da allora quel pericolo molto verosimile da ultima inadeguatezza o insoddisfazione delle desideranze , non è più un pericolo grande di fronte all'eventuarsi della transvivenza o transdasein che è essere nel transideale. Quella realizzazione conduce ad una libertà autentica che si disveli nella transkatarsi, nell'essere abitati dall'entusiasmo divino o dalla transcendenza eccelsa aldilà dell'ansia con un senso conseguente di gioia e di autentica libertà: Identificandosi col protagonista della tragedia o con l'eroe o l'eroina l'esserci è condotto similmente, ad una parvenza di paura o di timor panico o agorafobia e nel contempo di angoscia, nell'analisi di Aristotele, nella tragedia e nella compassione da virtù, dalla preoccupazione per, l' identificazione con, il protagonista com-preso negli assalti ignoti ed inconoscibili che affliggono. Dalle virtù dei meccanismi di peripezia e scoperta si è capaci di riconoscere il difetto fatale del protagonista e dell'eroe e si è esperti nel valutare le differenze e le ab-scisse: è quella solo la preoccupazione del protagonista e la sua vulnerabilità di fronte agli assalti noti ed ignoti che lo affliggono, è solo sua la sollecitudine di quelle piccole cose. Quel riconoscimento: piccolo è bello, ma la tragedia è transkatartica disvela il nobile risultato di riflessione, l'appuntamento di ragione che consente la trascendenza, l'identificazione col protagonista e l'eroe per svelare una alterezza quale passione per l'indifferenza verso il pericolo esistenziale: più alto, più eccelso o più elevato, per Aristotele, è l' eudaimonia fondata sulle virtù. Aristotele e Kant descrivono una estetica simile che sembra trascendenza . È transvivenza della libertà che dà luogo ad un piacere che elevi e nobiliti , è connesso ad una consapevolezza di qual genere di scopo più alto, più nobile, più sublime quale transesserci o sublyme transdasein rivelate dalla semplice ragione o razionalità. Si è in interazione con l'ansia estrema che conduce ad un sentimento di libertà e piacere , quale gioia o una trascendenza, una sublime disposizione o transensibilità o transpurezza transkatartica verso la più grande struttura di transdasein sublime. Né Aristotele né Kant descrivono la transestetica della bellezza-sublime o dell' arte solo così, ancora un'analisi delle loro teorie di certi fenomeni estetici, quello del sublime nella bellezza o, semplicemente, la bellezza è indifferibile, ma non c'era prima ed ora c'è quale sublime-dasein sublime in natura in disvelatezza o quale arte in accordo con la natura o la bellezza della natura nell'adeguata convenienza nella sua formalità, per cui l'ente sembra essere come è stato predeterminato, e costituisca l'argomento del ben-essere; tuttavia che cosa eccita la sensibilità di quel sublime, che possa comparire inadeguato per il logos, quale inadeguata abilità dell'immaginario e avvertita quale transviolenza per l'immaginazione, soltanto possibile nell'esserci del sublime o nella bellezza-sublime? Non possiamo non dire nient'altro, che quell'ente è adatto per la rappresentazione, che può essere trovato nella mente; perché il sublime non può essere contenuto in nessun formalismo, ma avviene è in interagenza o a contatto soltanto con le transidee della transpurezza: quale transinformalità presente anche senza nessuna rappresentazione adeguata, possibilità che può essere transimago rappresentata, attiva e denominata dalla e nella mente o essere in mente o essere la mente che mai mente. Così lontano , dall'oceano infuriante come in quadro di Turner o nell'odissea prima dell'approdo nelle sublimi insenature di Kalypso ove è dolce naufragare: tempeste sublimi e mitiche dell'eroe dell'esserci. La relativa vista di Kal-ypsous è la transkatarsi del sublime sintonizzante una transensibilità, che è sublime, poichè la mente è stimolata con le transidee, che contengono la più nobile alterezza. La bellezza indipendente della natura discopre o disvela una tecnica della natura, che è priorità e transpurezza quale sistematica e organica preesistente alle leggi, il principio delle quali non troviamo nelle abilità. Non c'è adeguatezza ma tuttavia dalla natura, come meccanismo della purezza, si e condotti verso analisi più profonde o verso alterezze abissali. Ma che cosa si dà nel sublime? Niente affatto in quell'accordo con le forme della natura per principii obiettivi e questi nel contempo verso le idee di quel sublime e nel relativo caos o nei relativi disordine e devastazione , se soltanto il formale possa essere osservato in quel sublime della natura. Alla bellezza della natura quel sublime costringe a pensare, un'osservazione provvisoria molto necessaria, che separa le transidee di quel sublime della natura dalle teorie epistemiche: la valutazione estetica della natura si dà aldilà del formulario speciale in uso o adatto, giacchè l'immaginazione annichilisce e getta nella trascendenza anche la natura, quale desideranza, sia pure solo virtualmente. La relativa libertà elogiata è assolutamente niente, ma significante: essere nella libertà ed essere nella mente in libertà, o essere nella libertà della natura in desideranza: è possibile che le forze della natura possano essere controllate o respinte soltanto fino a certo punto, più oltre dipende solo dall'esserci. Gli esseri sono completamente liberi, e superiori alla natura, anche la natura dinamica non li raggiunge, la luce bella è presente, ma non brucia. La bellezza è già un'espressione della libertà, la bellezza in libertà, perché è transarmonia. La transensibilità di quella alterezza è una sensibilità meson. È una composizione relativa più alta come nella tempesta esprime una felicità simile alla desideranza, tuttavia in lontananza e a distanza di sicurezza. Quella compresenza di due sensibilità contraddittorie in una soltanto transensibilità giacchè è assolutamente impossibile che lo stesso sentimento sia situato in due topoi opposti, quasi che si sia situati in due luoghi differenti o in obiquità mistica: la physis opposta o bistabile si biforca o si trovi in una spazialità moebiusiana. Si sperimenta così dalla sensibilità di quella alterità che la circostanza non dipenda dalle leggi della natura e che ci sia un Principium indipendente nella mente epistemica, aldilà in trascendenza dell'agitazione o del timore o della paura: una alterità infinita, perché si pensa, che cosa i sensi non comprendano , quale entusiasmo in libertà che si dià oltre il terribile, perché si possa desiderare, da che cosa gli impulsi si danno all'immaginazione nel regno delle loro caratteristiche o il ritrovamento della loro matrice, perché infine è assolutamente grande in noi la natura e non possa essere immensa: denominata dalla e nella mente o essere in mente o essere la mente che mai mente. Così lontano , dall'oceano infuriante o nell'odissea nelle sublimi insenature di Kalypso ove è dolce naufragare: tempeste sublimi e mitiche dell'eroe e dell'eroina e dell'esserci in vista di Kal-ypsous è la transkatarsi del sublime, poichè la mente epistemica è stimolata con la più nobile alterezza. La bellezza-sublime della physis discopre o disvela una transpurezza preesistente e transideale. Non c'è adeguatezza ma tuttavia dalla transpurezza, si aleggia verso analisi più profonde o verso alterezze cuspidali sublimi. Ma in cosa si dà il sublime? Niente, dalla bellezza-sublime la valutazione transestetica della natura si dà aldilà , che l'immaginazione getta nella trascendenza, quale desideranza. La libertà è assolutamente niente: essere nella libertà ed essere nella mente in libertà, o essere nella libertà della physis in desideranza, anche nella natura dinamica, come nella tempesta c'è una felicità simile alla desideranza, tuttavia in lontananza e a distanza di sicurezza, compresenza di transensibilità . Si sperimenta così dalla transensibilità quella alterità che la circostanza non dipenda dalla natura e che ci sia un Principium, aldilà in trascendenza del timore o della paura: una alterità infinita, perché si pensa, che cosa i sensi non comprendano , quale entusiasmo in libertà che si dà oltre il terribile, perché possiamo desiderare con l'immaginazione esistenziale. Dalla bellezza da sola non si è mai in interagenza come l'Intelligenza pura. Può essere che la fonte delle relative azioni sia pura, ma si deve costituire il fenomeno nella completezza. La bellezza-sublime quale transicona o transfigura di Kalypso si getta nelle onde ed è mito dell'alterezza che ama nascondersi nella bellezza e in alterità si dà, si autoeventua. Il sublime, non implica universalità; la bellezza, rappresenta l'oggetto di un logos che prescinde dal mutevole della sensazione, si offre quale formalità che non colpisce il soggetto dall'esterno rendendolo passivo. Là ove la bellezza presupponga forma, proporzione, e misura, il sublime è riconducibile alla grandezza senza limiti e colpisce direttamente i transensi. All'origine del piacere per la bellezza si situa così una qualità oggettiva, fondata sulle sensibilità; o transestetica nel transpazio e nel transtempo in quanto intuizioni della tramspurezza; nelle epigenesi del sublime non vi sono invece dati oggettivi. Il sublime, non ha un nesso con la proporzione. Rocce audacemente sporgenti, nelle quali non si trova alcuna misura, ma solo grandezza, sono sublimi. Qui non è importante tanto il piacere, quanto più tosto la grandezza. Quale l'epigenesi della differenza fra bellezza e sublime? Una lunga linea, una vasta estensione, le radure vuote o l'Oceano, sono il sublime, una grande altezza, una roccia è ancora più sublime. La profondità risveglia un terrore; tutte le rocce sporgenti sul mare spaventano, la vastità è una delle fonti del sublime e comprende in sé lunghezza, altezza e profondità. Fra le tre dimensioni è la lunghezza a suscitare il minore effetto, non genera la medesima impressione di una torre, di una roccia o di una montagna alta . L'altezza appare meno grande della profondità, e si è commossi in misura maggiore se si sprofonda lo sguardo in un abisso, Abgrund, che non se lo si innalzi verso un'altezza della medesima dimensione. Nell'alterità: dal grado estremo della grandezza a quello estremo della piccolezza: anche qui si scorge una fonte del sublime per l'impressione che essa suscita , impressione che non si distingue da quella della grandezza, poiché anch'essa genera stupore. I fenomeni sono diversi: il sublime, deve la sua origine ad un sentimento iniziale di dolore cui, subentra un sentimento di piacere. Quest'ultimo, meriterà la qualifica di piacere negativo e relativo, di piacere misto a terrore e sarà differente rispetto al piacere positivo donde trae origine la bellezza. Atra differenza: il sublime conduce le fibre del corpo ad uno stato di tensione, il bello induce in esse rilassamento. Dolore e tensione , piacere e rilassamento sono le vere e proprie fonti del sublime. La mente e il corpo sono così strettamente e intimamente connessi, che l'uno senza l'altro è incapace di provare dolore o piacere , simili a quelli di Epicuro: i movimenti, come il bello ed il sublime, sfociano in transdynamis, attività che incrementa la tensione delle fibre connessa con ogni tipo di dolore e sono epigenesi del fenomeno del sublime, che presenta notevoli analogie con il dolore: determinata qualità all'origine del sublime quale piacere e dispiacere, che presenta una complessità sfuggente completamente e che racchiude sotto di sé tre diverse transvarietà: il piacere puramente corporeo, il piacere del transesserci, ed infine il piacere di natura spirituale. Kant differenza fra conoscenza simbolica e conoscenza intuitiva, che parrebbero sulle prime rientrare nell'orizzonte della tradizione leibniziana, e si occupa successivamente della problematica: le semplici parole pare fossero in grado di suscitare sensazioni, utili per la comprensione della teoria del sublime. E' differenziato il sublime dalla bellezza nel senso motivato sulle fortune della mente, il relativo interesse con tutta l'immaginazione. Si pensa il sublime non inerente nella natura, ma quale fenomeno contenuto soltanto nella mente, essere fenomeno in mente, essere fenomeno della mente. Si pensa che possa essere contenuto in nessuna forma, in quanto informale, senza la forma o con formalità infinita o indefinita, quindi senza ilemorfie: giacchè il sublime è a-ilemorfico apriory , immateriale e senza una ontologia formale, senza rappresentazione adatta possibile, ma sempre in attivo e denominato nella mente: è il tentativo di esprimere l'infinito senza trovare all'interno della gamma delle caratteristiche un' analitica, che per quella rappresentazione risulti adeguata. L'infinito è sublime perché è l'inizio dall'intero complesso della contrastanza per sè, come significato invisibile e reso interno, rimane impronunciabile ed eccessivo, sempre in eccedenza al di là del pensabile o immaginabile: espressione fenomenica della relativa infinità. Il significato vincente qui è quello della trascendenza della transpurezza transestetica: la completezza è sempre in contrastanza, è sempre di fronte quale apparenza in sè, pensiero della transpurezza soltanto per il pensiero della transpurezza. Di quella dismisura il carattere simbolico sparisce. Comunque nel sublime la relatività è fenomenologicamente relativa, per cui il rapporto positivo con il rapporto negativo si converte nell'apparenza e nel relativo sparire . Ciò modella le disposizioni fenomeniche dentro la mente, nell'immaginazione come fuori, di modo che l'interpretazione rivela nello stesso tempo la presenza: non possiamo mettere la mente e le relative transidee in contrastanza. L'organizzazione e la forma di quel sublime possono essere così pensati anche dal doppio rapporto tra la sostanza suggerita come significante e il mondo apparente: sull'apparenza poichè la sostanza e la natura sono inaccessibili al pensiero giacchè in sè senza forma, senza ilemorfie, inerente della sostanza sublime, là è con tutta la relativa translucentezza, il suo splendore e translucenza della dea o della musa Kalypso. È l'oggetto, l'immagine di esso, oppure sono le parole con le quali lo si esprime, senza riferimento all'immagine a produrre un sentimento? Anche le parole, pensa Kant, possono produrre sensazioni ed impressioni: la sensazione del terrore, senza che sia necessario che ad esse corrispondano immagini o idee precise. Quale spiegazione dare del fenomeno? Poiché è consuetudine utilizzare determinate parole quando ci si rappresenta oggetti terribili, quelle suscitano terrore . Le parole che vengono associate ad oggetti terribili possono dunque suscitare il sentimento del terrore anche in assenza di quegli oggetti e senza rinviare ad idee o immagini. Quando si legge che Vulcano forgia la saetta di Giove mescolando fulmine, grandine e tuono e fitte tenebre, qui le semplici parole suscitano commozione: quale la fonte contenente la descrizione sublime e mitologica? Sublime delle parole.In qual modo, la poesia e l'eloquenza suscitano le transidee della bellezza e del sublime? Per comprendere quale sia l'origine della loro efficacia nel generare impressioni si consideri che le parole possono produrre nella mente dell'ascoltatore tre effetti: il suono, l'immagine della cosa rappresentata dal suono, il sentimento dell'animo originato o dal suono soltanto o dall'immagine soltanto oppure da suono ed immagine contemporaneamente. Vi sono però casi in cui le parole possono agire sulla mente unicamente grazie al loro suono, senza risvegliare alcuna immagine corrispondente: al di là degli oggetti naturali, e oltre agli oggetti della pittura e dell'architettura, anche agli oggetti dell'eloquenza e della poesia, ovvero alle parole, non possa essere disconosciuta la capacità di suscitare le transidee della bellezza e del sublime e che, anzi, debba essere ascritta loro una particolare efficacia, superiore a quella della natura . L'effetto della poesia sull'animo è completamente indipendente dalla capacità di suscitare immagini; si fonda interamente sulle sole parole e sul loro suono meravigliosamente sublime: poesia e retorica si fondano non sul principio dell'imitazione, che regola la pittura, ma sulla simpatia, e il loro compito consiste nel suscitare impressione ed effetto sulla mente del lettore e dell'ascoltatore, e non è certo quello di presentare una descrizione ed un'idea chiara delle cose di cui discorrono, perché le parole, nella loro autonomia, possono imporsi alla mente del lettore o dell'ascoltatore come sorgenti del sublime, proprio in quanto esse generano un sentimento di commozione in presenza di una poesia: il piacere per il sublime, per il quale è impossibile vi siano pareri oggettivi, universali, validi per tutti: sublime in analogia con il terrore, nesso fra il sublime e la parola: la scoperta definitiva di priorità sia della bellezza sia del sublime. Ora il sublime non è più una semplice impressione soggettiva ma rivela più tosto una transfondatezza prioritaria. Il sublime della natura, sia matematico o dinamico , si qualifica sempre come una validità non si limita al singolo soggetto empirico in un determinato momento temporale ed in un determinato luogo, ma solleva piuttosto una universalità e necessità che lo colloca sullo stesso piano del sentimento della bellezza: una "deduzione", una transfondatezza transprioritaria della validità transestetica sul sublime della natura, il sublime viene presentato quale transideale, ed il complesso della trascendenza transprioritaria del sublime, che risulta "comunicabile", e quindi di validità intersoggettiva: tutto ciò che è atto a suscitare le rappresentazioni, di dolore e pericolo, e tutto ciò che è in qualche modo spaventoso, o che presenta un'affinità con oggetti spaventosi o agisce sull'anima in modo analogo al terrore è fonte di sublime: il terrore, la paura non sono elementi del sublime. Il sublime, è correlato con un sentimento transideale, sentimento che coincide con la possibilità di pensare un oggetto che supera per la sua grandezza qualsiasi misura sensibile. Il sentimento del sublime è transideale e consiste nella possibilità di pensare un oggetto, gegenstand, che per grandezza supera qualsiasi misura sensibile: il sublime ha a che fare con la paura però l'origine è derivata da una dimensione transideale. Come sentimento, il sublime scaturisce dalla scoperta di un abisso, transabgrund, che si estenda oltre i confini dei sensi. Il sublime quale rappresentazione , destinazione o disposizione ad estendersi fino a superare ogni misura dei sensi. La paura, viene sospinta indietro e moderata dalla considerazione della propria sicurezza, e dell'impulso ad estendersi che è troppo grande per le capacità di comprensione: per il sublime, non si dispone di una denominazione atta a caratterizzarlo: indica una comparazione, che ci conduce ben al di là della misura abituale delle grandezze e l'immaginazione subisce alla vista di esso un'estensione tale che la misura abituale non è più sufficiente a comprendere l'oggetto, gegenstand: sublime è ciò la cui rappresentazione ci incute terrore e timore, altezze solitudini profonde, ed in esse il luogo di soggiorno terrificante e solitario degli anacoreti o degli eremiti, ed infine la notte è sublime, ma il giorno è bello, poiché ciò che suscita terrore, non sempre lo troviamo sublime, ed al contrario mostriamo avversione di fronte a ciò che ci riempie di timore, non sempre vi sia una coincidenza fra il terrore e il sorgere in noi della transidea di sublime e testimonia, anzi, che spesso, nei confronti di ciò che suscita terrore, si assuma un atteggiamento di ripulsa. Migliore sublime è ciò in cui l'immaginazione viene a tal punto estesa dall'oggetto, che la misura usuale non è più sufficiente a comprenderlo: alcune cose sublimi possano suscitare un sacro terrore, un mostruoso castello le cui rovine in parte crollate ci mostrano la triste antichità: moti dell'animo suscitato da tragedie, rappresentazioni poetiche ed oggetti naturali, transestetica della riflessione: hanno per se stessi una transpriorità ed è possibile svolgere un tipo di analisi sublime nella liberazione di vasi sottili o grossi da ingorghi pericolosi e nel rilassamento delle fibre del corpo, il sentimento del sublime si fonda sulla tendenza alla propria conservazione e sul timore, su di un dolore, il quale, poiché non arriva allo sconcerto reale delle parti del corpo, produce dei movimenti, che, liberando i vasi sottili o grossi da ingorghi pericolosi e molesti, capaci di suscitare emozioni piacevoli, non un vero piacere, ma una specie di orrore piacevole, una certa calma mista allo spavento, l'allentamento e rilassamento delle fibre del corpo, e quindi, un intenerimento, una dissoluzione, un illanguidimento, un soggiacere, un morire, uno struggersi dal piacere : il sentimento della bellezza o del sublime può esser suscitato dall'immaginazione congiunta con l'intelletto, ma anche con quelli in cui l'epigenesi determinante è una sensazione. Ma se il piacere, per un oggetto, si fa dipendere del tutto dal fatto che questo diletta per via di attrattive od emozioni, non si può esigere da nessun altro il consenso nella transestetica; perché allora ciascuno consulta a buon diritto il suo sentimento particolare, cessa anche interamente ogni disputa. L'universalità della transestetica cui conduce la definizione del sublime come attrattiva e commozione vengono, elevate a transideale, in accordo con la metodologia che dall'osservazione di come il sentimento immediato del ben-essere, cui sottoporremmo il piacere, o un dispiacere, senza alcun interesse, piacere disinteressato, contrapposizione fra attrattiva e bellezza, coincida con quel piacere che l'anima evidenzi dalla contemplazione della bellezza o desiderio o lussuria. Quest'ultimo mira costantemente al possesso della cosa che di per sé non è bellezza per l'anima, ma semplicemente le procura piacere per motivi del tutto diversi, a prescindere dall'attrattiva e dalla commozione nella spiegazione del piacere disinteressato: il sublime ci libera, attraverso il nesso con il sentimento transideale, dai moventi sensibili, e allontana , da ogni qualsivoglia interesse dei sensi: la distinzione fra "bellezza" e "attrattiva" fondande l'apriorità del sublime trascendentale: tutte le rappresentazioni, siano esse oggettivamente soltanto sensibili, o interamente intellettuali, possono essere soggettivamente congiunte col piacere e col dolore, il sublime ad una "tensione" delle fibre del corpo, può esser suscitato dall'immaginazione congiunta con l'intelletto, ma anche con quelli in cui l'epigenesi determinante è una sensazione. Se nel ricondurre il sublime al rilassamento ed alla tensione delle fibre del corpo e nel farli consistere in essi soltanto, quindi in sentimenti di natura sottesa è la tesi, che risale ad Epicuro, della corporeità . Così pure, come affermava Epicuro, il piacere e il dolore sono sempre corporei anche se provengano dall'immaginazione o perfino da rappresentazioni intellettuali: sull'esposizione della transestetica. Tra ciò che piace semplicemente nel logos, e ciò che diletta piace nella sensazione, vi è, spesso, una differenza essenziale. Il diletto pare che consista sempre in un sentimento dello svolgimento, e quindi anche del benessere corporeo, cioè della salute; sicché Epicuro, che considerava ogni diletto come, in fondo, una sensazione corporea, in ciò forse, non aveva torto, e s'ingannava soltanto quando poneva tra i diletti il piacere intellettuale e perfino il piacere pratico. Sicché, si può concedere ad Epicuro che ogni diletto, anche quando sia occasionato da concetti che suscitano transidee estetiche, è una sensazione corporea; senza che perciò si faccia minimamente torto al sentimento spirituale. Kant interpreta Epicuro : legge nel principio epicureo non tanto quello che il suo autore vi ha detto, quanto piuttosto quello che, a suo avviso, egli vi ha voluto dire. La novità consiste nell'avere stabilito una connessione con il principio epicureo, secondo il quale piacere e dolore hanno una connotazione inevitabilmente corporea. Kant pensa la presenza di Epicuro nella riconduzione del piacere e del dolore al legame fra la mente ed il corpo. Epicuro ha ragione, ad asserire che il piacere, quale che ne sia l’origine, è sempre identico a se stesso, e che non è possibile stabilire una differenza qualitativa fra i diversi tipi di piacere. Sublime, è ogni oggetto che suscita terrore, ma il sentimento del sublime non si possa risolvere nel terrore: intraprende il tentativo di separarli, all'interno della teoria del sublime dinamico della natura. Della natura in quanto transpotenza. È vero che il logos che assegna alla natura il sublime dinamico è inscindibile dalla sua rappresentazione come transpotenza quale epigenesi del timore; e non v'è dubbio che la superiorità relativa alla natura, come ostacolo che si oppone alla transensibilità, può essere sentita solo se si presupponga la potenza e solo se l' inadeguatezza generi timore. Perché nella transestetica, senza concetto, la superiorità sugli ostacoli non può essere giudicata se non dalla grandezza della resistenza. Ora quando si sente che il potere non sia adeguato, c'è timore. Perciò la natura, non può essere una potenza, e quindi dinamicamente sublime, se non è considerata come oggetto di timore . L'identificazione del sublime con il timore deve essere però corretta ed integrata: è da porsi una limitazione. Non è, infatti, vera la reciproca: che, cioè, ogni oggetto che suscita timore debba esser trovato sublime nel giudizio estetico. Il suscitare timore non è una condizione sufficiente per il sublime e non ne determina le caratteristiche essenziali. Colui che teme non può giudicare del sublime della natura, come non può giudicare della bellezza chi è dominato dall'inclinazione e dalla desideranza: fugge la vista dell'oggetto, che gli incute timore; ed è impossibile provare piacere in uno spavento, che sia seriamente sentito. Perciò quel piacere, che si sente e opprime, è una gioia. Ma è una gioia per la libertà dopo un pericolo, accompagnata dal proposito di non esporvisi mai più; ben lungi dal cercare l'occasione di ripensare alla sensazione provata, non si può neppure ricordarla senza fastidio. L'unico tipo di piacere che può provare colui che viene sopraffatto dal timore consiste nella "gioia" o il piacere che scaturisce dalla libertà da un dispiacere: sublime in quanto transpotenza, il sublime dinamico, fenomeni naturali che risvegliano Dio in collera? In sublime: il sentimento di superiorità sugli effetti naturali, il sentimento del Dio. Il sentimento del sublime non rischia di diventare allora sentimento di superiorità nei confronti di Dio stesso? Con il sublime, che lo attribuisce alla potenza, pare contrastare il fatto che si sia soliti rappresentare Dio come in collera nelle tempeste, negli uragani, nei terremoti; ma nel tempo stesso come rivelante la sua sublimità, in modo tale che sarebbe stoltezza e follia l'immaginare una superiorità del nostro animo sugli effetti, e, a quanto pare, anche sui fini di una tale potenza: la divinità come oggetto sublime, perché si trova una sublimità di sentire conforme alla volontà divina, e si eleva al disopra della paura davanti a questi avvenimenti naturali: distinzione fra il timore ed il sublime si può giungere ad una corretta distinzione: il sublime, poiché è intimamente connesso con la paura e l'angoscia che sorgono di fronte all'onnipotenza divina, la paura e l'angoscia davanti all'essere infinito, alle altezze imprevedibili, l'oceano, grandi figure e il grande spirito della natura o grande genius nella creazione fisica così attraente per la sensibilità, il piacere si apre . Chi si illumina per la comprensione dissolvendo il disordine nell'armonia può soddisfarsi in un mondo. Desidera nel grande mondo essere questo transcaos: o mancanza completa di scopo. La comprensione deve aderire a questa forma di collegamento, eccedente ed inutile, per il simbolo, o la transpurezza della libertà. Sotto quella transidea della libertà, che dipende sui relativi propri mezzi, così in una singolarità del pensiero, la comprensione collega, presenta il gioco infinito delle caratteristiche ed effettua così la relativa eccedenza di sè stessa: la comprensione quale possibile libertà. La libertà nobile gioco infinitamente più interessante, che la prosperità e l'ordine senza libertà. La libertà nel regno della libertà infinita continua, la libertà santa dello spirito in un'emozione sublime degli esseri di svelarsi in una transarmonia: il gioco terribile meraviglioso del distruttivo e la fuga inesorabile della fortuna, sublime intorno al daemon della transpurezza coincidente con l'esistenza nel relativo sublime: il fascino intero di quel sublime di magnitudine nel matematico sublime, nel dinamicamente sublime come transdynamis nel sublime, quale propriamente è sublime e natura alternazione e alterità, rapida alterezza. Così, il sublime è intenzionale quale libertà in trascendenza sublime:i sublimi possono essere anche amorfi, il sublime sembra essere-intenzionale, transviolenta le facoltà di senso e di transestetica apprensività. Kant divide il sublime nel 'matematico', grande magnitudine ed il 'dinamico' , magnitudine di forza in relazione alla volontà. Il matematico sublime è definito come qualche cosa di 'assolutamente grande' ovvero, 'grande oltre ogni paragone' o transidea sublime. Di solito, applichiamo qualche genere di standard di paragone. L'assolutamente grande, comunque non è il risultato di un paragone o una comparazione spaziale. Alcun oggetto è, misurabile - anche la taglia dell'universo, nessuno meno una montagna sulla Terra. Kant pensa soltanto al matematico in natura, ma fondamentalmente riflette sul 'estetico' nel senso di 'intuitivo' . La misura, richiede un numero ma anche un senso di unità, che possano essere contenute insieme nell'immaginazione e così 'comprese' . Un oggetto che eccede questi limiti, nonostante la sua taglia matematica, sarà presentato come assolutamente grande . Sublimi oggetti di senso, oceani, piramidi sono chiamati 'sublimi' . Transdasein-analytik del transideale transesteticio estatico: nell'analitica della bellezza Kant introduce il concetto "dell' ideale della bellezza" nella relativa forma più pura quale giudizio di gusto quale risposta all'apparenza pura della forma in un oggetto, in contrasto con tutto il reale, in uno dei sensi di quel concetto, avente un certo scopo specifico o essendo destinando ad avere un certo scopo, identifica così la bellezza della transpurezza con la forma o l'apparenza pura del reale. Kant complica la sua analisi riconoscendo le forme della bellezza che non sono pure ma collegate con, anche se non riducibile, il riconoscimento del reale: è "la bellezza aderente," una bellezza della forma che è costante o stabile o appropriata per lo scopo di un oggetto o un gegenstad o un ente o un superente che abbiano chiaramente un telos quale relativa forma possibile nei vari sensi, o sensibilità empiriche. Kant addiviene al transideale della bellezza, quando non ci sia adeguatezza tra le transidee e il gegenstand, ma mai al transideale del sublime, giacchè è paradossale in sè, o "di più alto modello, l'archetipo, una rappresentazione di un oggetto specifico o il tipo particolare di oggetto che è al massimo la bellezza . Kant pensa la bellezza iniziata dalla logica di gusto o l'archetipo di gusto. La bellezza per cui un'idea è di essere ricercata non può essere una bellezza vaga, deve appartenere all'oggetto di un logos interamente puro di gusto. Ciò significa che il transideale della bellezza è l'essere aderente: un'espressione estetica unicamente adatta per quello o questo scopo o estremità dell'esserci il solo capace di un transideale della bellezza, giacchè c'è sempre inadeguatezza tra la transidea e il gegenstand. Il transdasein è il solo fra tutti gli enti nel mondo capace del transideale di perfezione, anche quale bellezza della figura del transesserci, in interagenza con l' immaginazione. L'immaginazione è in effetti implicata: il transideale della bellezza può essere generato soltanto da un atto epigenetico dell'immaginazione transestetica; l'associazione deve essere generata dall'immaginazione, significa che il transideale della bellezza può essere trovato nella bellezza architettonica della forma del transesserci nello spazio: cioè la configurazione fissa delle caratteristiche dell'apparenza della transvivenza quale transarmonia fra le funzioni esplicitamente volute dei movimenti intenzionali dinamici dell'essere dell'ente e le funzioni istintive in conformità con i principii transideali, anche qualora si sopprimano desideri e sensibilità : l'esistenza è la libertà dei movimenti intenzionali dinamici del transesserci, la bellezza "d'eccitazione" e "la bellezza di distensione" o "di fusione". Schelling pensa alla bellezza naturale: la sua è una teoria della bellezza naturale ed artistica transestetica dell'apprensione sensitiva della verità. Estetica che nella sua classificazione delle arti, disvela un riconoscimento adeguato dell'importanza della verità , effettivamente verità in transenso, nell' esperienza nell'arte o del sublimity, per la conoscenza della verità: l'estetica di Kant no. Kant pensa che il piacere nella bellezza è disinteressato, soddisfa senza un concetto, che potremmo avere una sensibilità del piacere in un oggetto senza considerare che cosa i concetti si applichino ad esso ed in base ad una tale sensibilità c'è il logos della bellezza, il riconoscimento di adattamento dell'oggetto al relativo ambiente, non la verità: pensa che la percezione di transarmonia e di benessere allineate nelle cose intorno generi un'armonia e una transsensibilità : dove tutti i risultati delle leggi della natura nelle forme delicate rivelino una costanza elastico-efficace delle entità, nella bellezza è armoniosa o transensibilità o natura armoniosa, o transonanza fra transarmonia e transessere in natura: la percezione di transarmonia in natura bene-ordinata che attrae l' attenzione: la transensibilità della bellezza o transvisione della bellezza .

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    David Kelly - The Conspiracy Files - Part 1 of 2 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/conspiracy_files/6213898.stm David Kelly: The Conspiracy Files For many the sudden death of the government scientist and weapons inspector, Dr David Kelly, remains suspicious. BBC TWO: THE CONSPIRACY FILES Dr David Kelly David Kelly: The Conspiracy Files Sunday 25 February, 2007 Programme preview Kelly death not suicide, says MP Q&A: What really happened Timeline: David Kelly The official verdict was suicide. But a public inquest was never completed. The Conspiracy Files explores the questions that still surround Dr Kelly's death in July 2003, when the controversy about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction was at its height. Doctors, lawyers, bloggers and politicians, question the official account; and the programme investigates what really happened when David Kelly walked up Harrowdown Hill. BBC DAVID KELLY: THE CONSPIRACY FILES Transcript Harrowdown Hill Oxfordshire. In July 2003, the body of Dr David Kelly – Britain’s leading weapons inspector, was found here. The tragic death of the man caught in the crossfire of a prolonged and bitter battle between the Government and the BBC over why Britain went to war in Iraq. The official account says that under pressure he took his own life by cutting his wrist. Thames Valley Police spokesman: There is no indication at this stage of any other party being involved But the method it’s said he used was so unusual that many people now doubt the official version John Scurr, Consultant Vascular Surgeon: The question really is does it seem reasonable that he could have died from this injury alone, and I don't think he could. The official version says he also took an overdose of pills. But is there another story? Rowena Thursby: They were intent on not only killing him but making it look like-like suicide. They didn't want to know-people to know that he was being murdered. Lord Hutton’s inquiry into David Kelly’s death had far less legal powers than an inquest. Dr Michael Powers QC: They didn't have to give evidence under oath. A witness lying to Lord Hutton could not be prosecuted for perjury Some say it could be more sinister than suicide. Richard Spertzel, UN Weapons Inspector in Iraq 1994-1998: David Kelly did not commit suicide. He was assassinated After a six month inquiry Lord Hutton concluded there was no evidence at all of any foul play. Press: There was no involvement by a third person in Dr Kelly’s death But could there have been a conspiracy by intelligence agencies to murder Dr David Kelly? Norman Baker MP: He told me it was a wet disposal which means killed in a hurry What led this man to a tragic death on this lonely hillside? Dr David Kelly was Britain’s leading expert on biological weapons, and a key UN Inspector in the hunt for Saddam Hussein’s Weapons of Mass Destruction. Richard Spertzel, UN Weapons Inspector in Iraq 1994-1998: Well there's no question that David was an extremely good inspector A hardworking dedicated honest servant to what he believed in. Doctor Kelly did not seek out the harsh light at the centre of the political stage. A private man, he found the Oxfordshire countryside a respite from his involvement in the tense build up to the controversial war in Iraq. The Government said that Iraq posed an imminent threat in a dossier of intelligence about the regime of Saddam Hussein. Tony Blair September 2002: He has existing and active plans for the use of chemical and biological weapons which could be activated within 45 minutes. The 45 minute claim changed the reputation of the Government, the BBC, and David Kelly forever. After Iraq was invaded, no Weapons of Mass Destruction were found. When the BBC reporter Andrew Gilligan reported that a secret source told him that the Government probably knew the 45 minute claim was wrong, the Government’s credibility was on the line. Journalist’s question to Tony Blair: Did you mislead parliament Prime Minister? The stakes got higher and higher as the Prime Ministers integrity was questioned around the world News reporter: British Prime Minister Tony Blair is facing a barrage of accusations that he exaggerated intelligence about deadly weapons.. Blair is being characterised as a political Pinocchio in cartoons. An influential magazine spells Blair: ‘Bliar.’. As Andrew Gilligan’s secret source, David Kelly had unwittingly become the key to the biggest and fiercest row ever between the Government and the BBC in which neither side would back down. Alastair Campbell, Prime Minister’s Official Spokesman 1997-2003: Until the BBC acknowledge that is a lie I will keep banging on that correspondence file will get thicker,and they’d better issue an apology pretty quick. A witch hunt for the whistleblower gripped the corridors of power for six weeks. Dr Kelly volunteered his name internally to the Ministry of Defence, hoping he’d be protected, but the government revealed details about his identity before finally confirming his name. He and his wife had just ten minutes notice to flee their home to escape a rat-pack of reporters hot on his tail. Alastair Hay, Professor of Toxicology Leeds University: This pressure was extraordinary I don’t know what point somebody has to reach before it becomes too much. The Inspector became the inspected. Andrew Mackinlay MP: This is the High Court of Parliament and I want you to tell the committee who you met. Three days after this questioning, Dr Kelly was found dead a few miles from his home in Oxfordshire, on Harrow down Hill. Thames Valley Police read out a statement from his family. Kelly Family Statement: Events over recent weeks have made David’s life intolerable and all of those involved should reflect long and hard on this fact. The end of David Kelly’s life was the beginning of a mystery. What really happened on Harrowdown Hill? Lord Hutton said the BBC was at fault in broadcasting unfounded allegations and Andrew Gilligan had admitted mistakes in his reporting. Lord Hutton concluded Dr Kelly killed himself. He found public exposure very stressful, feared he’d lose his job, felt unable to share his problems and was gripped by a profound sense of hopelessness. Lord Hutton: The major factor was a severe loss of self esteem resulting from his feeling that people had lost trust in him and from his dismay at being exposed to the media. Lord Hutton also gave the official account of how Dr Kelly died: by completely severing an artery in his wrist and taking an overdose of painkillers. Lord Hutton: Dr Kelly took his own life by cutting his left wrist, and that his death was hastened by taking co-proxamol tablets I’m further satisfied that there was no involvement by a third person in Dr Kelly’s death. So, officially it’s a suicide and the case is closed. But the Conspiracy Files series commissioned an opinion poll of a thousand people in Britain. The telephone poll found that almost one in four people questioned believed Dr Kelly did not commit suicide. So despite a two and a half million pound judicial inquiry. There remain many unanswered questions… and secrecy breeds conspiracy. A group of doctors and consultants have written a number of published letters saying that they don’t accept the cause of death given by Lord Hutton. Their letters have made them front page news, but have not drawn an official response from the Government. The letters by the doctors are co-ordinated by Rowena Thursby. She has set up a website called “The Kelly Investigation Group” to look into Dr Kelly’s death Rowena Thursby: People are very very interested in the death of Dr Kelly and they don't necessarily believe the official line which is that he took his own life. They find the whole thing rather suspicious and they write to me telling me that I'm doing, me that I'm doing very important work and that they that they are encouraging me to continue. David Kelly’s body was found by two volunteer searchers Paul Chapman and Louise Holmes with the help of their dog. They said they took care not to disturb the scene or get too close to the body, and contacted the Police as soon as they found him. Their description was of a body “slumped” or “sitting … up against a tree”. Rowena Thursby: The first two search volunteers who found the body clearly report-reported that his body was sitting up against a tree, The searchers told a police officer DC Graham Coe how to find the body, and he stayed alone with it for thirty minutes. DC Coe said he only observed the scene and never got close to the body and stayed about 7 or 8 feet away. Rowena Thursby: When the other people came along, the paramedics, the policemen, the detective, the forensic pathologist - all those people subsequently said that the body was flat on its back, not touching the tree at all. So completely horizontal on his back, so, which indicates to me, to anybody sensible, that the body was moved. But if the body was moved, who would have moved it and why? Rowena Thursby believes that DC Coe should have been questioned by Lord Hutton about what happened when he was alone with the body. Rowena Thursby: To find out why-what he-what he was doing for half an hour by the body, to question directly on whether he'd actually moved the body and put it to him that-that these witnesses say one thing and these witnesses say another. How do you explain that? You were with the body for the half an hour on your own, did you move the body? Lord Hutton says that such discrepancies in eye witness accounts are quite normal and do not disturb him. He saw photographs of the body that he believes are consistent with all the descriptions given. But discrepancies did trouble the Paramedics. Eleven months after Lord Hutton’s final report, they took the unprecedented step of calling a press conference. Dave Bartlett and Vanessa Hunt had attended dozens of suicide attempts in which someone has cut a wrist. But they found the scene of David Kelly’s death unusually free of bloodstains. Dave Bartlett: I suppose everyone was surprised at the outcome. Like I say we’re not medical experts, all we commented on was the amount of blood over the body. Vanessa Hunt: We can only say what we saw on that morning and there just didn’t appear to be a substantial amount of blood loss either onto the clothing or around the area. Rowena Thursby: The paramedics who attended the body they were very very shocked to find that there was very little blood around. In fact they they attend, they had attended attempted suicides and actual suicides, in about over a period of about 15 years and there was always masses and masses of blood all over the place So they didn't feel that he he could have died in that way. The Hutton Report had different witness accounts. Some saw more blood. The pathologist said there was a “significant volume of blood” and the forensic biologist, said that there was “a fair bit of blood” consistent with a severed artery, and some had soaked into the ground. Neither of them would speak to this programme to clarify exactly what they meant. One of the group of doctors and consultants who have published letters questioning the official cause of death is vascular surgeon John Scurr, a specialist in veins and arteries. John Scurr, Consultant Vascular Surgeon: I personally I don't think I've ever seen anybody die from wrist injuries. I have seen a lot of wrist injuries. It is a very common cry for help type thing. Attempt at suicide rather than a genuine attempt at killing themselves. John Scurr believes that if Dr Kelly had really meant to kill himself, he cut the wrong artery in the wrong way. John Scurr, Consultant Vascular Surgeon: Frankly I don't believe that simply cutting an ulnar artery will cause death. The radial artery runs down here and the ulnar artery runs down this side of the wrist. The ulnar artery is relatively deep and to get the ulnar artery you would need to cut in that sort of direction, which is an unusual way of holding a knife. The body has a lot of self defensive mechanisms. As you know if you take a knife and cut your finger you don't bleed to death. And the reason you don't bleed to death is you produce all sorts of clever things that seal the circulation and the bleeding stops. If you cut a large artery then you may not be able to stop the bleeding. The thing we know about the ulnar artery is it's quite small and so if Dr Kelly had cut it clean it would have gone into spasm and it would have, you know, probably oozed for a little while trickled. He might have lost a few hundred mills of blood. And then it would have stopped. Officially, David Kelly’s death was not only caused by haemorrhaging from a wrist wound. Lord Hutton says that an overdose of the painkiller co-proxamol probably also played a part. Packaging found with the body meant that up to twenty nine co-proxamol tablets were available to Dr Kelly. But the toxicologist who gave evidence to the Hutton Inquiry could not be definitive about how many tablets were taken. Tests he carried out suggested it was an overdose. That Dr Kelly had ten times more than a normal medical dose of co-proxamol. But he also said that Dr Kelly had less is usually fatal. Rowena Thursby : The forensic toxicologist to the Hutton Inquiry said that there was only a third of what’s normally a fatal amount in his blood. That’s an area which does need proper exploration by people who have expertise in toxicology and that could only be done at an inquest. One of Dr Kelly’s close friends, who is himself an eminent toxicologist was concerned about the way this evidence was dealt with by the Hutton Inquiry. Alastair Hay, Professor of Toxicology Leeds University: Well if I comment on the toxicology which is the assessment of the drugs that were present in David. I thought it was incredibly superficial very superficial. You need to know something about the behaviour of the drug, there are concerns about where you take the blood sample from. Concentrations vary at different sites of the body. And might there be changes in the blood levels after somebody dies with these drugs. These are all important factors that you need to know when you’re interpreting a blood level after somebody dies. And that inquiry didn't go ahead. It is not only the medical causes of Dr Kelly’s death that are disputed. People also question whether there was evidence that he intended to commit suicide. The Hutton Report says that Dr Kelly became suicidal because he felt humiliated and that his self esteem, his integrity and his job were threatened. To find out if Dr Kelly really reached that point you need to know who he was. David Kelly: Hello and welcome to the Defence and microbiology division… lead to the procurement of defensive equipment against biological warfare His job required a balance between the open world of briefing the media about the risks posed by germ warfare and the secret world of intelligence. Dr Kelly had the highest level of security clearance and briefed the Defence Intelligence Staff, MI6 and the CIA. Dr Kelly was involved in the preparation of the dossier that formed the basis of the Governments case for war against Iraq. After the war, when no weapons of mass destruction were found in Iraq, Dr Kelly talked to a number of journalists about the dossier, and came under suspicion of being Andrew Gilligan’s secret source. As rumours swirled around David Kelly volunteered his name to the MoD… BBC Ten O’Clock News George Alagiah: The ministry of defence has announced that one of its employees has volunteered he met the BBC reporter Andrew Gilligan in an unauthorised meeting. The Government held off naming Dr Kelly initially. But they revealed details of his identity which enabled the media to identify him. Something which has angered a former Deputy Chief of Defence Intelligence John Morrison, Deputy Chief of Defence Intelligence 1995 – 1999 : I think if they decided that they didn't want the name to come out, they could have protected him. They just left so many clues, that they all pointed to poor old Dr. Kelly. When the Government finally confirmed Dr Kelly’s name to the media, he was subjected to public scrutiny by a televised Parliamentary Committee. After two interviews by his employers and public exposure in the media, Dr Kelly had been under a lot of strain. But he spent many years doing a very difficult job in a hostile environment, making 37 visits to Iraq. Would someone like that really buckle and kill himself during a period of stress? Not according to one of his closest colleagues. Richard Spertzel, UN Weapons Inspector in Iraq 1994-1998: One of the reasons I didn’t accept the suicide story from the beginning is I would not consider David a person that would become suicidal. We all have depressions. There are some of us and David is included in those that would endure and find other ways out On the last day of his life, Dr Kelly was telling friends that he would continue with the job that was so important to him. He was replying to messages from friends and colleagues that he would soon be back in Baghdad. His daughter was due to get married in a couple of months Richard Spertzel, UN Weapons Inspector in Iraq 1994-1998: I would feel it most unlikely that he would want to essentially abandon his family and end his life prematurely. He certainly could have looked forward to many more years of happy life. But amongst the e-mails on that last day, there was one sinister message. It doesn’t appear to show that Dr Kelly was a threat to himself, but that he felt threatened by others. He told his friend, journalist Judith Miller that there were “many dark actors playing games”. When David Kelly’s body was found the Prime Minister had just arrived in Japan and faced some difficult moments. Journalist’s question to Tony Blair in Japan : Have you got blood on your hands Prime Minister? But he did say that Lord Hutton’s Inquiry would follow established legal procedures. Tony Blair in Japan: I think what is important now is that there is some due process and the reason for having an inquiry and I think people would have expected us to have one because of the tragedy that’s occurred is so that the facts can be established. But was the Hutton Inquiry fit for purpose? Dr Michael Powers QC is an expert in the law relating to inquests, and has sat as a coroner, he points out that the Hutton Inquiry had less legal powers than a Coroner has at an inquest Dr Michael Powers QC: In Lord Hutton's inquiry, they didn't have to give evidence under oath. And we all know, whatever one - one's view might be upon people giving evidence under oath, that if evidence is given under oath, it has to be truthful. If it can be shown not to be truthful, the persons giving out untruthful evidence can be prosecuted for perjury. A witness lying to Lord Hutton could not be prosecuted for perjury The law that allowed the Hutton Inquiry to replace the inquest has only been used on three other occasions, when it could prevent unnecessary repetition of inquests in cases of multiple deaths from the same cause. Dr Michael Powers QC: This procedure of adjourning for a public inquiry is really still with major disasters. People die multiple deaths in a train accident or boating accident of that kind. So far as I'm aware, this is the first and only time when it has been used to investigate the death of a single person. Lord Hutton’s report was strongly criticised but there was some praise too. At the time few questioned the report’s conclusion that David Kelly took his own life. Lord Hutton says he decided fairly on the basis of the evidence most of which he published. Liberal Democrat MP Norman Baker is renowned for asking difficult question of the Government. He has committed a whole year to investigating Dr Kelly’s death, which he believes was not properly examined by the Hutton Inquiry. Norman Baker MP: The Hutton Inquiry singularly failed to pursue any points of interest. As soon as anyone starts to say anything interesting the Hutton Inquiry moved onto something else. The Hutton Inquiry seemed to be there to shut down matters rather than to open them up. It's extraordinary that the, the rigour and the legal defence and legal protection for the Hutton Inquiry was less than a normal court inquiry, less than a normal. And yet this is what was set up by the Prime Minister. So that's very odd. Defenders of Lord Hutton’s inquiry say it was not impeded by the absence of statutory powers, as the huge public interest in the inquiry ensured that it had the full co-operation of all the witnesses needed. They also praise its detail and rigour. Would an inquest have been a better way to answer the questions about the death of David Kelly? The MP Norman Baker thinks so. He’s come to a school in Nottingham to talk to pupils about the way that Dr Kelly’s death was officially investigated. Norman Baker MP: People who meet violent deaths always have a proper inquest it’s extraordinary that there hasn’t been one on this occasion and we ought to have one some of the evidence would then come out properly An inquest was opened in Oxford, but the Lord Chancellor told the Oxfordshire Coroner to adjourn it as the Hutton Inquiry would take over. The coroner wrote to the Lord Chancellor of his concern at the Hutton inquiry’s lack of legal powers when compared to those of an inquest “as you will know, a coroner has power to compel the attendance of witnesses. There are no such powers attached to a Public Inquiry”. Just after that Mr Gardiner attended a private meeting at the Department of Constitutional Affairs. Norman Baker MP: So how did this happen? Why did he have that meeting with DCA officials and what happened in that meeting? The Lord Chancellor, Charles Falconer, accepted the Coroner’s need to have one further hearing but in an unusual intervention, he told the coroner to “keep the proceedings as short as possible and, so far as the Coroner’s Rules allow, take the evidence in writing”. The coroner did just that, and a death certificate was registered setting out the causes of death. Yet the Hutton Inquiry had only just started taking evidence. Norman Baker wants the Government to explain this Norman Baker MP: What was the point of the Hutton inquiry if the death certificate already gave the reasons. Harriet Harman: Um well I think that that that it the Hutton Report obviously ranged much more widely that is one of the reasons why there wasn’t necessary for there to be a further inquest by the Oxfordshire coroner Three months after the Hutton Report, the Coroner Nicholas Gardiner formally considered whether to reopen the inquest. And on the 14 April, 2004--I On t, David Kelly’s widow accepted that he had taken his own life and did not want the inquest resumed, neither did the Lord Chancellor. The coroner had additional evidence from the Police, which he kept away from the public gaze. Dr Michael Powers QC: He had access to other information. The Thames Valley police report-- which, of course, we don't have access to--which, again, gave him support for his conclusion that there was no exceptional reason to resume the inquest. Now the difficulty, so far as the additional evidence is concerned, is that we don't know what it was. Thames Valley Police declined to assist this programme, but told us they “conducted a thorough investigation into the death of Dr Kelly and presented the evidence to Lord Hutton’s inquiry and to the Oxfordshire coroner”. The Lord Chancellor also declined to contribute to this programme. But said at the time he’d checked with the Kelly family that they preferred the Inquest to be adjourned. And he said he did so to avoid any unnecessary distress the duplication of proceedings might cause. The Hutton Inquiry took evidence from an official who said in a throw away remark, David Kelly had told him that if Iraq was invaded, he’d “probably be found dead in the woods”. Rowena Thursby thinks that the possibility of murder should at least be investigated further. Rowena Thursby: Who would've wanted to murder him at that time? Well, there is the possibility at least, that he was murdered by agents of a state. Whether that state was, well we don't know which state it was, but it, it could have been what's known as a hit. A professional assassination. The Government’s denies that UK intelligence services carry out assassinations. But Norman Baker believes that David Kelly was murdered. And he’s used a newspaper article to call for people who have any information to contact him. Norman Baker MP: A small number of people have come forward with something to tell. People who’ve either known David Kelly or been connected with the Government in some way an even smaller number of people who are in the inside connected with the security services or others who may know something of what happened. There’s one particular one which may well be the answer that has validity and that is the particular one that I’m pursuing at the moment. The Conspiracy Files has heard from a number of people who say that David Kelly could have been assassinated. Richard Spertzel was the USA’s most senior biological weapons inspector. He worked alongside Dr Kelly for many years in Iraq and believes the Iraqi regime may have pursued a vendetta against Dr Kelly. Richard Spertzel: I believed that David was probably a victim of Iraqi Intelligence Service because of long standing enmity of Iraq towards David. Dr Kelly was a very effective Inspector. In 1995 he uncovered a large amount of biological weapons agent and forced the Iraqi government to admit that they had a secret biological weapons programme. Kelly’s colleague Richard Spertzel discovered just how much the weapons inspectors had annoyed Saddam Hussein. Richard Spertzel: A number of us were on an Iraqi hit list. I was number three, and my understanding, David was only a couple behind that. And none of the people on that hit list were welcome in Iraq. Richard Spertzel: Immediately after David's death, a number of the other inspectors and I exchanged emails saying, 'Be careful.' He could have been murdered, assassinated, I mean to that extent I'm involved in my own conspiracy theory. In June 2003, after the invasion of Iraq, UN inspectors examined the mobile labs that were claimed as the “smoking gun” of the Iraqi weapons programme. Tony Blair at Evian G8 2003: We already have according to our experts, two mobile biological weapons facilities that were most certainly part, according to our intelligence, of a whole set of those facilities. We have a situation where I don’t think there is any doubt in anybody’s mind that Saddam Hussein accumulated these weapons. But an inspection team which included Dr Kelly later revealed that they were really devices to make hydrogen for balloons. Rowena Thursby believes this may have provided a motive. Rowena Thursby: He was dangerous to the cause at that time, of, of, of getting the country to war. And to, revealing that the, the country had been taken to war on false pretences. And he you know he spoke offline to the Observer in the same way that he'd spoken offline to Andrew Gilligan, so perhaps they they felt that he had to go Did anyone really believe that Dr Kelly ought to be silenced? Warren Reed was an officer in the Australian Secret Intelligence Service for ten years and thinks someone in Whitehall might have. Warren Reed, Australian Secret Intelligence Service 1976-1985: A key priority of some people in the political machine would have been to shut David Kelly up once and for all. John Scarlett the Chairman of the Joint Intelligence Committee- the Government’s main intelligence advisor - had said that David Kelly needed a “proper security style interview” Warren Reed was trained by MI6. He knows what a security style interview involves and believes that Dr Kelly would have felt threatened by it. Warren Reed, Australian Secret Intelligence Service 1976-1985: They would have known how to ask questions that would have perhaps needled Kelly in a certain sort of way. They were looking for pressure points that would intimidate him. If indeed something like this did occur I would imagine that a top British interrogator maybe from MI6 MI5 would have been brought in under cover perhaps something they picked out to do with say his personal life could have been sufficiently intimidatory to have brought on either the suicide or say a heart attack. Could Dr Kelly have had such an intimidating interrogation in a safe house? Norman Baker MP has found an interesting lead in the Southend Echo Norman Baker MP: This looks like the period after when he admitted to the MoD that he may have been responsible for the leak and he had spoken to Andrew Gilligan and before he then became a public figure so I’m guessing this is probably round about the 10th July or that sort of time and this is one part of the sequence which so far hasn’t been identified in the story of David Kelly. The Ministry of Defence told us that Dr Kelly was not taken to a safe house in Southend. He was interviewed twice at the Ministry by his line manager and the head of personnel, but they say they did not subject Dr Kelly to particular stress. A different explanation for Dr Kelly’s death comes from Barrister Michael Shrimpton. He has made his own investigation at Harrowdown Hill. Michael Shrimpton: Harrowdown Hill, I've visited the murder site, it's ideal. I'm known as a national security lawyer and it's known that I have links with the intelligence communities in the United Kingdom and in-throughout the western world. I was contacted within about twenty four hours by somebody working with David Kelly in the intelligence community and he said he'd been murdered and I wasn't particularly surprised at that and given the source I had no doubts whatsoever that he'd been murdered from that time. Michael Shrimpton believes he has found clues on Harrowdown Hill that others have missed. Michael Shrimpton: You could a hide a platoon or a company of men over the brow of that hill and you wouldn’t know if they kept quiet until you were right on top of them. As a place for an ambush it’s just frankly ideal. He was clearly assassinated to keep him quiet there was no other motive. Michael Shrimpton believes that the co-proxamol pain-killers found near the body were simply a cover used by assassins Michael Shrimpton: The plan is to leave coproxamol by the side of the body. So they’re trying to get co-proxamol into the stomach and they’re trying to shove co-proxamol down into poor David Kelly he dies on them too quickly. As they’re shoving the tablet down him, probably the first tablet, there’s vomit, and that’s the end then he dies. And that’s the end of tablets. Michael Shrimpton also believes that the cut wrist was really to hide the injection marks created by a different method of death, an injection of a fatal substance Michael Shrimpton: Succynol choline is still very much the favoured means of killing him because it is so easily disguised. The wrist slash is clearly in my view designed not just to create the impression of suicide but it’s a perfect means of disguising the puncture wounds. Michael Shrimpton says he knows that Dr Kelly was assassinated because of his extensive intelligence contacts. Michael Shrimpton: That is the red phone if that phone goes it could be anyone from the White House to President’s administration in Russia to the CIA to whoever. It’s not usual for me to pick up the phone and have Henry Kissinger on the other end but that has happened. He actually has that number but he doesn’t have that number. That gives me a direct line through to Vice President Dick Cheney’s Office. Michael Shrimpton is also a fan of espionage fiction from Frederick Forsyth to Tom Clancy Michael Shrimpton: He’s one of my favourite authors One of Tom Clancy’s books, The Teeth of the Tiger concerns an “off the books” team of US Government assassins who avoid detection by killing their victims with succynol choline Michael Shrimpton: Now yes there is a reference to Succynol Choline in this book and I think that follows the assassination of David Kelly. Tom Clancy has very good contacts in the intelligence community. It may be that Tom Clancy picked up a loopback from the Kelly assassination. But if the suggestion is that I got succynol choline from a Tom Clancy novel then sorry that won’t wash. Norman Baker’s investigation has led to him meeting a secret contact who has heard a sinister version of what happened to Dr Kelly. Norman Baker MP: He had been told by - a, a friend who was senior in the security services that this was a quote - wet disposal and what is wet disposal I asked him, wet disposal means that it was a hurried job and he was killed in a hurried way, that's apparently what wet disposal means But will Norman Baker’s interest in the security services mean that they take an interest in him? Norman Baker MP: There have been a number of odd instances. I've had e-mail traffic clearly interfered with and messages half erased. One of those was from a former member of MI6, who also had his post interfered with. Norman Baker MP: "Dear Mr Baker I'm not sure what is going on here. I wrote a full message to you. I confirm that I did receive your letter about four weeks after you posted it and it had been blatantly opened in the UK and forwarded in a Royal Mail forwarding envelope. The security services are usually more subtle when they intercept mail". When Norman Baker and Rowena Thursby meet they avoid talking anywhere they might be monitored. Rownena Thursby: Well, I, I tend to assume that I'm being, being bugged. I, I mean I don't know. But I imagine, the arms of government GCHQ they would probably need to keep an eye on um, who was doing what in connection with this case. They're bound to want to know what this group is about. And where we're taking it and whether it can be a further threat to the government. Norman Baker has come to Radio Oxford to publicise his personal inquiry into David Kelly’s death and has to confront the label of conspiracy theorist. BBC Radio Oxford: I’ve been talking to Norman Baker MP .Well the Hutton Inquiry found that Dr Kelly had committed suicide. But some have their doubts and conspiracy theories abound. So where to we go from here? Are you claiming that there are major dark forces and spooks operating out there? Norman Baker MP: Well I’m not using the phrase dark forces, I’m not using the word spooks nor am I by the way using the phrase conspiracy theory which is a very lazy way or journalists in national newspapers to dismiss anyone who questions the official version of events. A conspiracy is two or more people coming together for a common purpose no more no less. You might argue that George Bush and Tony Blair had a conspiracy to invade Iraq. BBC Radio Oxford: And what’s your best suggestion of an alternative explanation. Norman Baker MP: I’ve had leads to do with individuals who were connected with David Kelly and who had particular reasons to wish him not to be there. BBC Radio Oxford: Basil in Northmoor rang in on that one he says it seems a bit like the death of Princess Diana and it’ll never be solved and it makes him think there could indeed be major dark forces at work. Well if you want to get through to the programme it’s your time of day to get things off your chest. Dr Kelly’s friend Alastair Hay believes that it’s because of a lack of confidence in the Hutton Inquiry that questions are still raised about the death of his friend. Alastair Hay, Professor of Toxicology Leeds University: It's correct that these uncertainties are raised about things. And I think that this is a message for coroners in general. And it's a message for anybody who conducts an investigation like this. That you need to inquire you need to have some precision in terms of the information that is provided to the court. Because there are these uncertainties and unless these uncertainties are dealt with at the time then all sorts of speculation will occur. And it's perfectly reasonable for that speculation to occur Professor Peter Tyrer is a clinical psychiatrist and the editor of the British Journal of Psychiatry. He sees conspiracy theories as an inevitable consequence of political news management and spin Prof Peter Tyrer, Professor of Psychiatry Imperial College London: We've recently published a paper in the British Journal of Psychiatry that shows that the ordinary population doesn't trust the Government and institutions when they provide information erm a majority feel they are right to mistrust that at least in the first instance. I think this is really a consequence of the Governments excessive reliance on spin It’s difficult to be conclusive about the conspiracy theories which have grown up about Dr Kelly’s death. Thames Valley Police have never commented publicly on the theories. They say they “found no evidence of any third party involvement in Dr Kelly’s death.” And forensic evidence to the Hutton Inquiry showed no force or violence inflicted by another person. We spoke to a former deputy chief of defence intelligence. John Morrison has worked with MI5 and MI6. We asked him about Richard Spertzel’s theory. Richard Spertzel, UN Weapons Inspector in Iraq 1994-1998: I think David was probably a victim of the Iraqi intelligence service John Morrisson, Deputy Chief of Defence Intelligence 1995 - 1999: Let's use a little bit of common sense here. If Iraqi intelligence had wanted to get rid of David Kelly, where would they have done it? Iraq or the UK. He could have had an accident at any time in Iraq. Very hard to prove it wasn't an accident. Would they really track him down? Others have suggested that Dr Kelly might have been the victim of assassins much closer to home. Are there British agents licensed to kill? John Morrisson, Deputy Chief of Defence Intelligence 1995 - 1999: It is indeed complete fantasy that there are agents that are licensed to kill. There are intelligence agencies around the world who do engage in assassinations, there's no doubt about that. Some of them not very nice people at all. But we have never had a policy of assassination to my knowledge in the history of the UK intelligence agencies. And certainly not in the last few decades. John Morrison also rejects the use of the term wet disposal John Morrison, Deputy Chief of Defence Intelligence 1995 - 1999: Right. I, I've seen the words wet disposal used in fiction to cover assassinations. I've never heard them in my entire professional career except perhaps as a joke. John Morrison, Deputy Chief of Defence Intelligence 1995 - 1999: I can't conceive of anybody or organisation having any motive whatsoever, to kill Dr. Kelly. In a crime such as this you need, traditionally, motive, method, and opportunity. Since there's no motive, this is the rock on which all conspiracy theories founder. Some doctors have raised important medical questions about Dr Kelly’s death that remain unanswered. The Coroner, The Pathologist and the toxicologist to the Hutton Inquiry declined our invitation to speak to this programme. So what do other forensic experts make of those doubts? Dr Allen Anscombe is the President of the British Association in Forensic Medicine. A forensic pathologist with over 20 years experience, who has performed several thousand autopsies. We put to him the point made by vascular surgeon John Scurr Dr Allen Anscombe, President British Association in Forensic Medicine: I don’t believe that simply cutting an ulnar artery will cause death Dr Allen Anscombe, President British Association in Forensic Medicine: Forensic pathologists are biased in terms of seeing what people actually die from, clinicians by and large, the vast majority of their patients don't die. So again, we approach things from a different way and actually see what people really die from. You might argue we don't see what people survive. So I'm quite happy to accept that often severed small to medium sized arteries such as ulnar artery are not fatal, but severings of such an artery can and is occasionally fatal. And if you combine that with somebody who is deceased then you tend to put two and two together The Paramedics say they didn’t see much blood at the scene. Is there any way to establish if Dr Kelly had lost enough blood to have died from haemorrhaging? Dr Allen Anscombe, President British Association in Forensic Medicine: The actual volume of blood given that the person is deceased...um...is likely to be fatal, whatever that volume happens to be. There is not a simple volume which is always fatal and a simple volume which is not. It depends on the rate of bleeding, it depends on your physical condition whilst...before you're bleeding and whilst you're bleeding, depends on a number of factors It’s also suggested that up to five pints of blood need to be lost in order to cause death, and the pathologist who conducted the post– mortem on Dr Kelly in Oxford should have measured the amount of blood lost or the amount remaining. Dr Allen Anscombe, President British Association in Forensic Medicine: There's no simple test to measure the remaining amount of blood in the circulation in, in a dead body. It would be nice if it was possible but unfortunately it's not Sceptics suggest that co-proxamol couldn’t have been a factor in Dr Kelly’s death because the toxicologist to the Hutton inquiry said that the concentrations of co-proxamol found in Dr Kelly were less than is usually fatal. Rowena Thursby: There was a third of what’s usually a fatal amount in his blood Professor Alastair Hay believes the evidence of toxicologist at the Hutton Inquiry wasn’t as detailed as it could have been. Alastair Hay, Professor of Toxicology Leeds Universityy: I think it would have helped if he had said that if you look at deaths involving coproxamol that there is a range of concentrations that you will find in people. Ranging from about a quarter of the value that was found in David to in the case of the one drug propoxyphene, almost forty times as much as as in David. And so you've got that range and David would sit in that range but all be it at the lower end. But it would still give you a measure of reassurance that this sort of level is what you would find in people who have committed suicide. Professor Robert Forrest is Britain’s leading Forensic toxicologist and the president of the Forensic Science Society. He points out that Co- proxamol has been used in many suicides. Prof Robert Forrest, President The Forensic Science Society: At one stage it was accounting for about ten percent of the cases of fatal overdose that we saw. The numbers have dropped off dramatically in the last few years and this is because it has been decided that it will no longer be a licensed preparation available on prescription. The Hutton Inquiry’s toxicologist said that the concentrations of co- proxamol found in Dr Kelly’s blood were lower than the levels that are usually fatal Prof Robert Forrest, President The Forensic Science Society: The concentrations in Dr Kelly's blood are on the low side. We normally see higher concentrations than that in a person who has died of an overdose of Co-Proxamol. But if you've got heart disease - and if there is something else going on like blood loss, then all three of those are going to act together. The overdose of Co-Proxamol, the heart disease and the blood loss I've got no doubt that the - cause of Dr Kelly's death was a combination of blood loss, heart disease and overdose of Co-Proxamol. Not necessarily in that order. If I was going to put it in order I'd put the overdose of Co- Proxamol first. But it's important that all of them had interacted to lead to the death. The key to whether David Kelly was really suicidal was his state of mind. The Hutton Inquiry heard that David Kelly told a colleague he felt “thrown” when the committee asked him about another BBC reporter, Susan Watts. Richard Ottaway, Foreign Affairs Committee 2003: You have confirmed that you have spoken to Susan Watts. Can I take you through the quote again "The 45 minute point was a statement that was made and it got out of all proportion….. David Kelly had told the MoD that he’d met Susan Watts but hadn’t spoken to her about the 45 minute claim. He was told that if new evidence came to light which called into question his account, he might face disciplinary action. The committee twice read out what a source had told her. Richard Ottaway, Foreign Affairs Committee2003: Now there are many people who think that you are the source of that quote. What’s your reaction to that suggestion? I find it very difficult it doesn’t sound like my form of words, it doesn’t sound like a quote from me. You deny that those are your words. Do you deny you were the source of that? Yes David Kelly was the source and must have realised if there was a transcript there might well be a tape, and if there was a tape, that would prove he was the source and he would be exposed as dishonest. Prof Peter Tyrer, Professor of Psychiatry Imperial College London: He was a man who was a stickler for accuracy and it this comes over time and time again and he was also very concerned about being honest and I think he was concerned that this extra information which was tape recorded presumably without his knowledge might have implied that he was a liar and not to be trusted that must have been incredibly damaging for someone of his personality structure When Dr Kelly’s friend Alastair Hay saw him face tough questioning alone in front of the Foreign Affairs Committee, he was very concerned. Andrew Mackinlay MP: You’re under an obligation to reply Alastair Hay, Professor of Toxicology Leeds University: I'd never seen David in a situation where he didn't seem in control and I watched his face - I don't know there was just a look about it that worried me and his hands I was watching his hands too and the way he was holding them and clasping them. This was a very different David that I was seeing and so, um, that made me worried really. You just have to imagine how you would feel under those circumstances where everything that you had done your whole career which you are immensely proud of, and absolutely justifiably because it was a fan- an enormously brilliant record that he had, to think that this might all be in peril. The Government’s treatment of Dr Kelly has angered John Morrison. John Morrison, Deputy Chief of Defence Intelligence 1995 - 1999: Well, speaking personally, I think Dr. Kelly was treated abominably by number ten and my old ministry, the ministry of defence. I think they owed him a duty of care, they could have protected him. They did not only not protect him, they hung him out to dry. And I think that was despicable. On his last morning alive, Dr Kelly sent e-mails to friends saying he’d soon be back in Baghdad. Is that really the action of someone considering suicide? Professor Peter Tyrer has studied Dr Kelly’s emails Prof Peter Tyrer, Professor of Psychiatry Imperial College London: It looked as though the ones on the morning of the 17th were rather stereotyped whereas the earlier emails that he sent in July were much more informative and erm more sort of warmth coming through them and I think that there was a certain detachment of those emails on the morning of the 17th of July which made me think that he'd already decided that he was going to take his own life when he was writing those As well as sending e-mails David Kelly was receiving them. One was about an MP who had asked a parliamentary question about what disciplinary action the MoD was going to take against him. He took a knife he’d had since childhood on his last walk towards Harrowdown Hill Prof Peter Tyrer, Professor of Psychiatry Imperial College London: He was a person who liked to be in control and it was clear from the last few days of his life that he felt he was losing control. The uncertainty for someone who is highly meticulous the uncertainty of what might happen it’s almost worse than the certainty of something terrible happening. He didn’t actually know how it was going to pan out and I think that must have been extremely alarming for him. So I think it’s that combination that really led to the suicide. “He had a broken heart. He had shrunk into himself”. Mrs Kelly told the Hutton Inquiry. She hasn’t spoken to this programme but she told Rowena Thursby she has no doubts that her husband took his own life. Rowena Thursby: I spoke to Mrs Kelly on the phone. And, and she felt that her husband had in fact, committed suicide. But that, that was her strong belief. But you know, people can believe things very strongly but it doesn't mean to say that they're actually true. So I feel that we have to pursue we have to find out what happened to David Kelly. Norman Baker is also determined to continue and will not be deterred when he is labelled a conspiracy theorist. Norman Baker MP: I fully expected to be attacked in a careless and undefined way, which is what that is. But I think in politics if politics is to mean anything at all you have to do what you think is right. If you’re going to go through politics upsetting nobody achieving nothing playing safe and getting your MBE at the end or your seat in the house of lords what is the point of being in politics you’ve got to take some difficult decisions you’ve got to do what you think is right. David Kelly’s friends want him to be remembered for the enormous contribution he made with his career. Alastair Hay, Professor of Toxicology Leeds University: I would hope conspiracy theories don't get in the way of us remembering David. For me he was an outstanding scientist, he was somebody at the peak of his profession. I don't know of a biological warfare expert in the world who was better than David. So he's made the world a much safer place because he's told us what countries can do if they set their minds to it and what you need to do to protect yourself. So for me he was a good friend, he was an absolute professional, ah, and he was someone that we owe a great debt to, and that's how he should be remembered http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_David_Kelly

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    David Kelly - The Conspiracy Files - Part 2 of 2

    David Kelly - The Conspiracy Files - Part 2 of 2 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/conspiracy_files/6213898.stm David Kelly: The Conspiracy Files For many the sudden death of the government scientist and weapons inspector, Dr David Kelly, remains suspicious. BBC TWO: THE CONSPIRACY FILES Dr David Kelly David Kelly: The Conspiracy Files Sunday 25 February, 2007 Programme preview Kelly death not suicide, says MP Q&A: What really happened Timeline: David Kelly The official verdict was suicide. But a public inquest was never completed. The Conspiracy Files explores the questions that still surround Dr Kelly's death in July 2003, when the controversy about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction was at its height. Doctors, lawyers, bloggers and politicians, question the official account; and the programme investigates what really happened when David Kelly walked up Harrowdown Hill. BBC DAVID KELLY: THE CONSPIRACY FILES Transcript Harrowdown Hill Oxfordshire. In July 2003, the body of Dr David Kelly – Britain’s leading weapons inspector, was found here. The tragic death of the man caught in the crossfire of a prolonged and bitter battle between the Government and the BBC over why Britain went to war in Iraq. The official account says that under pressure he took his own life by cutting his wrist. Thames Valley Police spokesman: There is no indication at this stage of any other party being involved But the method it’s said he used was so unusual that many people now doubt the official version John Scurr, Consultant Vascular Surgeon: The question really is does it seem reasonable that he could have died from this injury alone, and I don't think he could. The official version says he also took an overdose of pills. But is there another story? Rowena Thursby: They were intent on not only killing him but making it look like-like suicide. They didn't want to know-people to know that he was being murdered. Lord Hutton’s inquiry into David Kelly’s death had far less legal powers than an inquest. Dr Michael Powers QC: They didn't have to give evidence under oath. A witness lying to Lord Hutton could not be prosecuted for perjury Some say it could be more sinister than suicide. Richard Spertzel, UN Weapons Inspector in Iraq 1994-1998: David Kelly did not commit suicide. He was assassinated After a six month inquiry Lord Hutton concluded there was no evidence at all of any foul play. Press: There was no involvement by a third person in Dr Kelly’s death But could there have been a conspiracy by intelligence agencies to murder Dr David Kelly? Norman Baker MP: He told me it was a wet disposal which means killed in a hurry What led this man to a tragic death on this lonely hillside? Dr David Kelly was Britain’s leading expert on biological weapons, and a key UN Inspector in the hunt for Saddam Hussein’s Weapons of Mass Destruction. Richard Spertzel, UN Weapons Inspector in Iraq 1994-1998: Well there's no question that David was an extremely good inspector A hardworking dedicated honest servant to what he believed in. Doctor Kelly did not seek out the harsh light at the centre of the political stage. A private man, he found the Oxfordshire countryside a respite from his involvement in the tense build up to the controversial war in Iraq. The Government said that Iraq posed an imminent threat in a dossier of intelligence about the regime of Saddam Hussein. Tony Blair September 2002: He has existing and active plans for the use of chemical and biological weapons which could be activated within 45 minutes. The 45 minute claim changed the reputation of the Government, the BBC, and David Kelly forever. After Iraq was invaded, no Weapons of Mass Destruction were found. When the BBC reporter Andrew Gilligan reported that a secret source told him that the Government probably knew the 45 minute claim was wrong, the Government’s credibility was on the line. Journalist’s question to Tony Blair: Did you mislead parliament Prime Minister? The stakes got higher and higher as the Prime Ministers integrity was questioned around the world News reporter: British Prime Minister Tony Blair is facing a barrage of accusations that he exaggerated intelligence about deadly weapons.. Blair is being characterised as a political Pinocchio in cartoons. An influential magazine spells Blair: ‘Bliar.’. As Andrew Gilligan’s secret source, David Kelly had unwittingly become the key to the biggest and fiercest row ever between the Government and the BBC in which neither side would back down. Alastair Campbell, Prime Minister’s Official Spokesman 1997-2003: Until the BBC acknowledge that is a lie I will keep banging on that correspondence file will get thicker,and they’d better issue an apology pretty quick. A witch hunt for the whistleblower gripped the corridors of power for six weeks. Dr Kelly volunteered his name internally to the Ministry of Defence, hoping he’d be protected, but the government revealed details about his identity before finally confirming his name. He and his wife had just ten minutes notice to flee their home to escape a rat-pack of reporters hot on his tail. Alastair Hay, Professor of Toxicology Leeds University: This pressure was extraordinary I don’t know what point somebody has to reach before it becomes too much. The Inspector became the inspected. Andrew Mackinlay MP: This is the High Court of Parliament and I want you to tell the committee who you met. Three days after this questioning, Dr Kelly was found dead a few miles from his home in Oxfordshire, on Harrow down Hill. Thames Valley Police read out a statement from his family. Kelly Family Statement: Events over recent weeks have made David’s life intolerable and all of those involved should reflect long and hard on this fact. The end of David Kelly’s life was the beginning of a mystery. What really happened on Harrowdown Hill? Lord Hutton said the BBC was at fault in broadcasting unfounded allegations and Andrew Gilligan had admitted mistakes in his reporting. Lord Hutton concluded Dr Kelly killed himself. He found public exposure very stressful, feared he’d lose his job, felt unable to share his problems and was gripped by a profound sense of hopelessness. Lord Hutton: The major factor was a severe loss of self esteem resulting from his feeling that people had lost trust in him and from his dismay at being exposed to the media. Lord Hutton also gave the official account of how Dr Kelly died: by completely severing an artery in his wrist and taking an overdose of painkillers. Lord Hutton: Dr Kelly took his own life by cutting his left wrist, and that his death was hastened by taking co-proxamol tablets I’m further satisfied that there was no involvement by a third person in Dr Kelly’s death. So, officially it’s a suicide and the case is closed. But the Conspiracy Files series commissioned an opinion poll of a thousand people in Britain. The telephone poll found that almost one in four people questioned believed Dr Kelly did not commit suicide. So despite a two and a half million pound judicial inquiry. There remain many unanswered questions… and secrecy breeds conspiracy. A group of doctors and consultants have written a number of published letters saying that they don’t accept the cause of death given by Lord Hutton. Their letters have made them front page news, but have not drawn an official response from the Government. The letters by the doctors are co-ordinated by Rowena Thursby. She has set up a website called “The Kelly Investigation Group” to look into Dr Kelly’s death Rowena Thursby: People are very very interested in the death of Dr Kelly and they don't necessarily believe the official line which is that he took his own life. They find the whole thing rather suspicious and they write to me telling me that I'm doing, me that I'm doing very important work and that they that they are encouraging me to continue. David Kelly’s body was found by two volunteer searchers Paul Chapman and Louise Holmes with the help of their dog. They said they took care not to disturb the scene or get too close to the body, and contacted the Police as soon as they found him. Their description was of a body “slumped” or “sitting … up against a tree”. Rowena Thursby: The first two search volunteers who found the body clearly report-reported that his body was sitting up against a tree, The searchers told a police officer DC Graham Coe how to find the body, and he stayed alone with it for thirty minutes. DC Coe said he only observed the scene and never got close to the body and stayed about 7 or 8 feet away. Rowena Thursby: When the other people came along, the paramedics, the policemen, the detective, the forensic pathologist - all those people subsequently said that the body was flat on its back, not touching the tree at all. So completely horizontal on his back, so, which indicates to me, to anybody sensible, that the body was moved. But if the body was moved, who would have moved it and why? Rowena Thursby believes that DC Coe should have been questioned by Lord Hutton about what happened when he was alone with the body. Rowena Thursby: To find out why-what he-what he was doing for half an hour by the body, to question directly on whether he'd actually moved the body and put it to him that-that these witnesses say one thing and these witnesses say another. How do you explain that? You were with the body for the half an hour on your own, did you move the body? Lord Hutton says that such discrepancies in eye witness accounts are quite normal and do not disturb him. He saw photographs of the body that he believes are consistent with all the descriptions given. But discrepancies did trouble the Paramedics. Eleven months after Lord Hutton’s final report, they took the unprecedented step of calling a press conference. Dave Bartlett and Vanessa Hunt had attended dozens of suicide attempts in which someone has cut a wrist. But they found the scene of David Kelly’s death unusually free of bloodstains. Dave Bartlett: I suppose everyone was surprised at the outcome. Like I say we’re not medical experts, all we commented on was the amount of blood over the body. Vanessa Hunt: We can only say what we saw on that morning and there just didn’t appear to be a substantial amount of blood loss either onto the clothing or around the area. Rowena Thursby: The paramedics who attended the body they were very very shocked to find that there was very little blood around. In fact they they attend, they had attended attempted suicides and actual suicides, in about over a period of about 15 years and there was always masses and masses of blood all over the place So they didn't feel that he he could have died in that way. The Hutton Report had different witness accounts. Some saw more blood. The pathologist said there was a “significant volume of blood” and the forensic biologist, said that there was “a fair bit of blood” consistent with a severed artery, and some had soaked into the ground. Neither of them would speak to this programme to clarify exactly what they meant. One of the group of doctors and consultants who have published letters questioning the official cause of death is vascular surgeon John Scurr, a specialist in veins and arteries. John Scurr, Consultant Vascular Surgeon: I personally I don't think I've ever seen anybody die from wrist injuries. I have seen a lot of wrist injuries. It is a very common cry for help type thing. Attempt at suicide rather than a genuine attempt at killing themselves. John Scurr believes that if Dr Kelly had really meant to kill himself, he cut the wrong artery in the wrong way. John Scurr, Consultant Vascular Surgeon: Frankly I don't believe that simply cutting an ulnar artery will cause death. The radial artery runs down here and the ulnar artery runs down this side of the wrist. The ulnar artery is relatively deep and to get the ulnar artery you would need to cut in that sort of direction, which is an unusual way of holding a knife. The body has a lot of self defensive mechanisms. As you know if you take a knife and cut your finger you don't bleed to death. And the reason you don't bleed to death is you produce all sorts of clever things that seal the circulation and the bleeding stops. If you cut a large artery then you may not be able to stop the bleeding. The thing we know about the ulnar artery is it's quite small and so if Dr Kelly had cut it clean it would have gone into spasm and it would have, you know, probably oozed for a little while trickled. He might have lost a few hundred mills of blood. And then it would have stopped. Officially, David Kelly’s death was not only caused by haemorrhaging from a wrist wound. Lord Hutton says that an overdose of the painkiller co-proxamol probably also played a part. Packaging found with the body meant that up to twenty nine co-proxamol tablets were available to Dr Kelly. But the toxicologist who gave evidence to the Hutton Inquiry could not be definitive about how many tablets were taken. Tests he carried out suggested it was an overdose. That Dr Kelly had ten times more than a normal medical dose of co-proxamol. But he also said that Dr Kelly had less is usually fatal. Rowena Thursby : The forensic toxicologist to the Hutton Inquiry said that there was only a third of what’s normally a fatal amount in his blood. That’s an area which does need proper exploration by people who have expertise in toxicology and that could only be done at an inquest. One of Dr Kelly’s close friends, who is himself an eminent toxicologist was concerned about the way this evidence was dealt with by the Hutton Inquiry. Alastair Hay, Professor of Toxicology Leeds University: Well if I comment on the toxicology which is the assessment of the drugs that were present in David. I thought it was incredibly superficial very superficial. You need to know something about the behaviour of the drug, there are concerns about where you take the blood sample from. Concentrations vary at different sites of the body. And might there be changes in the blood levels after somebody dies with these drugs. These are all important factors that you need to know when you’re interpreting a blood level after somebody dies. And that inquiry didn't go ahead. It is not only the medical causes of Dr Kelly’s death that are disputed. People also question whether there was evidence that he intended to commit suicide. The Hutton Report says that Dr Kelly became suicidal because he felt humiliated and that his self esteem, his integrity and his job were threatened. To find out if Dr Kelly really reached that point you need to know who he was. David Kelly: Hello and welcome to the Defence and microbiology division… lead to the procurement of defensive equipment against biological warfare His job required a balance between the open world of briefing the media about the risks posed by germ warfare and the secret world of intelligence. Dr Kelly had the highest level of security clearance and briefed the Defence Intelligence Staff, MI6 and the CIA. Dr Kelly was involved in the preparation of the dossier that formed the basis of the Governments case for war against Iraq. After the war, when no weapons of mass destruction were found in Iraq, Dr Kelly talked to a number of journalists about the dossier, and came under suspicion of being Andrew Gilligan’s secret source. As rumours swirled around David Kelly volunteered his name to the MoD… BBC Ten O’Clock News George Alagiah: The ministry of defence has announced that one of its employees has volunteered he met the BBC reporter Andrew Gilligan in an unauthorised meeting. The Government held off naming Dr Kelly initially. But they revealed details of his identity which enabled the media to identify him. Something which has angered a former Deputy Chief of Defence Intelligence John Morrison, Deputy Chief of Defence Intelligence 1995 – 1999 : I think if they decided that they didn't want the name to come out, they could have protected him. They just left so many clues, that they all pointed to poor old Dr. Kelly. When the Government finally confirmed Dr Kelly’s name to the media, he was subjected to public scrutiny by a televised Parliamentary Committee. After two interviews by his employers and public exposure in the media, Dr Kelly had been under a lot of strain. But he spent many years doing a very difficult job in a hostile environment, making 37 visits to Iraq. Would someone like that really buckle and kill himself during a period of stress? Not according to one of his closest colleagues. Richard Spertzel, UN Weapons Inspector in Iraq 1994-1998: One of the reasons I didn’t accept the suicide story from the beginning is I would not consider David a person that would become suicidal. We all have depressions. There are some of us and David is included in those that would endure and find other ways out On the last day of his life, Dr Kelly was telling friends that he would continue with the job that was so important to him. He was replying to messages from friends and colleagues that he would soon be back in Baghdad. His daughter was due to get married in a couple of months Richard Spertzel, UN Weapons Inspector in Iraq 1994-1998: I would feel it most unlikely that he would want to essentially abandon his family and end his life prematurely. He certainly could have looked forward to many more years of happy life. But amongst the e-mails on that last day, there was one sinister message. It doesn’t appear to show that Dr Kelly was a threat to himself, but that he felt threatened by others. He told his friend, journalist Judith Miller that there were “many dark actors playing games”. When David Kelly’s body was found the Prime Minister had just arrived in Japan and faced some difficult moments. Journalist’s question to Tony Blair in Japan : Have you got blood on your hands Prime Minister? But he did say that Lord Hutton’s Inquiry would follow established legal procedures. Tony Blair in Japan: I think what is important now is that there is some due process and the reason for having an inquiry and I think people would have expected us to have one because of the tragedy that’s occurred is so that the facts can be established. But was the Hutton Inquiry fit for purpose? Dr Michael Powers QC is an expert in the law relating to inquests, and has sat as a coroner, he points out that the Hutton Inquiry had less legal powers than a Coroner has at an inquest Dr Michael Powers QC: In Lord Hutton's inquiry, they didn't have to give evidence under oath. And we all know, whatever one - one's view might be upon people giving evidence under oath, that if evidence is given under oath, it has to be truthful. If it can be shown not to be truthful, the persons giving out untruthful evidence can be prosecuted for perjury. A witness lying to Lord Hutton could not be prosecuted for perjury The law that allowed the Hutton Inquiry to replace the inquest has only been used on three other occasions, when it could prevent unnecessary repetition of inquests in cases of multiple deaths from the same cause. Dr Michael Powers QC: This procedure of adjourning for a public inquiry is really still with major disasters. People die multiple deaths in a train accident or boating accident of that kind. So far as I'm aware, this is the first and only time when it has been used to investigate the death of a single person. Lord Hutton’s report was strongly criticised but there was some praise too. At the time few questioned the report’s conclusion that David Kelly took his own life. Lord Hutton says he decided fairly on the basis of the evidence most of which he published. Liberal Democrat MP Norman Baker is renowned for asking difficult question of the Government. He has committed a whole year to investigating Dr Kelly’s death, which he believes was not properly examined by the Hutton Inquiry. Norman Baker MP: The Hutton Inquiry singularly failed to pursue any points of interest. As soon as anyone starts to say anything interesting the Hutton Inquiry moved onto something else. The Hutton Inquiry seemed to be there to shut down matters rather than to open them up. It's extraordinary that the, the rigour and the legal defence and legal protection for the Hutton Inquiry was less than a normal court inquiry, less than a normal. And yet this is what was set up by the Prime Minister. So that's very odd. Defenders of Lord Hutton’s inquiry say it was not impeded by the absence of statutory powers, as the huge public interest in the inquiry ensured that it had the full co-operation of all the witnesses needed. They also praise its detail and rigour. Would an inquest have been a better way to answer the questions about the death of David Kelly? The MP Norman Baker thinks so. He’s come to a school in Nottingham to talk to pupils about the way that Dr Kelly’s death was officially investigated. Norman Baker MP: People who meet violent deaths always have a proper inquest it’s extraordinary that there hasn’t been one on this occasion and we ought to have one some of the evidence would then come out properly An inquest was opened in Oxford, but the Lord Chancellor told the Oxfordshire Coroner to adjourn it as the Hutton Inquiry would take over. The coroner wrote to the Lord Chancellor of his concern at the Hutton inquiry’s lack of legal powers when compared to those of an inquest “as you will know, a coroner has power to compel the attendance of witnesses. There are no such powers attached to a Public Inquiry”. Just after that Mr Gardiner attended a private meeting at the Department of Constitutional Affairs. Norman Baker MP: So how did this happen? Why did he have that meeting with DCA officials and what happened in that meeting? The Lord Chancellor, Charles Falconer, accepted the Coroner’s need to have one further hearing but in an unusual intervention, he told the coroner to “keep the proceedings as short as possible and, so far as the Coroner’s Rules allow, take the evidence in writing”. The coroner did just that, and a death certificate was registered setting out the causes of death. Yet the Hutton Inquiry had only just started taking evidence. Norman Baker wants the Government to explain this Norman Baker MP: What was the point of the Hutton inquiry if the death certificate already gave the reasons. Harriet Harman: Um well I think that that that it the Hutton Report obviously ranged much more widely that is one of the reasons why there wasn’t necessary for there to be a further inquest by the Oxfordshire coroner Three months after the Hutton Report, the Coroner Nicholas Gardiner formally considered whether to reopen the inquest. And on the 14 April, 2004--I On t, David Kelly’s widow accepted that he had taken his own life and did not want the inquest resumed, neither did the Lord Chancellor. The coroner had additional evidence from the Police, which he kept away from the public gaze. Dr Michael Powers QC: He had access to other information. The Thames Valley police report-- which, of course, we don't have access to--which, again, gave him support for his conclusion that there was no exceptional reason to resume the inquest. Now the difficulty, so far as the additional evidence is concerned, is that we don't know what it was. Thames Valley Police declined to assist this programme, but told us they “conducted a thorough investigation into the death of Dr Kelly and presented the evidence to Lord Hutton’s inquiry and to the Oxfordshire coroner”. The Lord Chancellor also declined to contribute to this programme. But said at the time he’d checked with the Kelly family that they preferred the Inquest to be adjourned. And he said he did so to avoid any unnecessary distress the duplication of proceedings might cause. The Hutton Inquiry took evidence from an official who said in a throw away remark, David Kelly had told him that if Iraq was invaded, he’d “probably be found dead in the woods”. Rowena Thursby thinks that the possibility of murder should at least be investigated further. Rowena Thursby: Who would've wanted to murder him at that time? Well, there is the possibility at least, that he was murdered by agents of a state. Whether that state was, well we don't know which state it was, but it, it could have been what's known as a hit. A professional assassination. The Government’s denies that UK intelligence services carry out assassinations. But Norman Baker believes that David Kelly was murdered. And he’s used a newspaper article to call for people who have any information to contact him. Norman Baker MP: A small number of people have come forward with something to tell. People who’ve either known David Kelly or been connected with the Government in some way an even smaller number of people who are in the inside connected with the security services or others who may know something of what happened. There’s one particular one which may well be the answer that has validity and that is the particular one that I’m pursuing at the moment. The Conspiracy Files has heard from a number of people who say that David Kelly could have been assassinated. Richard Spertzel was the USA’s most senior biological weapons inspector. He worked alongside Dr Kelly for many years in Iraq and believes the Iraqi regime may have pursued a vendetta against Dr Kelly. Richard Spertzel: I believed that David was probably a victim of Iraqi Intelligence Service because of long standing enmity of Iraq towards David. Dr Kelly was a very effective Inspector. In 1995 he uncovered a large amount of biological weapons agent and forced the Iraqi government to admit that they had a secret biological weapons programme. Kelly’s colleague Richard Spertzel discovered just how much the weapons inspectors had annoyed Saddam Hussein. Richard Spertzel: A number of us were on an Iraqi hit list. I was number three, and my understanding, David was only a couple behind that. And none of the people on that hit list were welcome in Iraq. Richard Spertzel: Immediately after David's death, a number of the other inspectors and I exchanged emails saying, 'Be careful.' He could have been murdered, assassinated, I mean to that extent I'm involved in my own conspiracy theory. In June 2003, after the invasion of Iraq, UN inspectors examined the mobile labs that were claimed as the “smoking gun” of the Iraqi weapons programme. Tony Blair at Evian G8 2003: We already have according to our experts, two mobile biological weapons facilities that were most certainly part, according to our intelligence, of a whole set of those facilities. We have a situation where I don’t think there is any doubt in anybody’s mind that Saddam Hussein accumulated these weapons. But an inspection team which included Dr Kelly later revealed that they were really devices to make hydrogen for balloons. Rowena Thursby believes this may have provided a motive. Rowena Thursby: He was dangerous to the cause at that time, of, of, of getting the country to war. And to, revealing that the, the country had been taken to war on false pretences. And he you know he spoke offline to the Observer in the same way that he'd spoken offline to Andrew Gilligan, so perhaps they they felt that he had to go Did anyone really believe that Dr Kelly ought to be silenced? Warren Reed was an officer in the Australian Secret Intelligence Service for ten years and thinks someone in Whitehall might have. Warren Reed, Australian Secret Intelligence Service 1976-1985: A key priority of some people in the political machine would have been to shut David Kelly up once and for all. John Scarlett the Chairman of the Joint Intelligence Committee- the Government’s main intelligence advisor - had said that David Kelly needed a “proper security style interview” Warren Reed was trained by MI6. He knows what a security style interview involves and believes that Dr Kelly would have felt threatened by it. Warren Reed, Australian Secret Intelligence Service 1976-1985: They would have known how to ask questions that would have perhaps needled Kelly in a certain sort of way. They were looking for pressure points that would intimidate him. If indeed something like this did occur I would imagine that a top British interrogator maybe from MI6 MI5 would have been brought in under cover perhaps something they picked out to do with say his personal life could have been sufficiently intimidatory to have brought on either the suicide or say a heart attack. Could Dr Kelly have had such an intimidating interrogation in a safe house? Norman Baker MP has found an interesting lead in the Southend Echo Norman Baker MP: This looks like the period after when he admitted to the MoD that he may have been responsible for the leak and he had spoken to Andrew Gilligan and before he then became a public figure so I’m guessing this is probably round about the 10th July or that sort of time and this is one part of the sequence which so far hasn’t been identified in the story of David Kelly. The Ministry of Defence told us that Dr Kelly was not taken to a safe house in Southend. He was interviewed twice at the Ministry by his line manager and the head of personnel, but they say they did not subject Dr Kelly to particular stress. A different explanation for Dr Kelly’s death comes from Barrister Michael Shrimpton. He has made his own investigation at Harrowdown Hill. Michael Shrimpton: Harrowdown Hill, I've visited the murder site, it's ideal. I'm known as a national security lawyer and it's known that I have links with the intelligence communities in the United Kingdom and in-throughout the western world. I was contacted within about twenty four hours by somebody working with David Kelly in the intelligence community and he said he'd been murdered and I wasn't particularly surprised at that and given the source I had no doubts whatsoever that he'd been murdered from that time. Michael Shrimpton believes he has found clues on Harrowdown Hill that others have missed. Michael Shrimpton: You could a hide a platoon or a company of men over the brow of that hill and you wouldn’t know if they kept quiet until you were right on top of them. As a place for an ambush it’s just frankly ideal. He was clearly assassinated to keep him quiet there was no other motive. Michael Shrimpton believes that the co-proxamol pain-killers found near the body were simply a cover used by assassins Michael Shrimpton: The plan is to leave coproxamol by the side of the body. So they’re trying to get co-proxamol into the stomach and they’re trying to shove co-proxamol down into poor David Kelly he dies on them too quickly. As they’re shoving the tablet down him, probably the first tablet, there’s vomit, and that’s the end then he dies. And that’s the end of tablets. Michael Shrimpton also believes that the cut wrist was really to hide the injection marks created by a different method of death, an injection of a fatal substance Michael Shrimpton: Succynol choline is still very much the favoured means of killing him because it is so easily disguised. The wrist slash is clearly in my view designed not just to create the impression of suicide but it’s a perfect means of disguising the puncture wounds. Michael Shrimpton says he knows that Dr Kelly was assassinated because of his extensive intelligence contacts. Michael Shrimpton: That is the red phone if that phone goes it could be anyone from the White House to President’s administration in Russia to the CIA to whoever. It’s not usual for me to pick up the phone and have Henry Kissinger on the other end but that has happened. He actually has that number but he doesn’t have that number. That gives me a direct line through to Vice President Dick Cheney’s Office. Michael Shrimpton is also a fan of espionage fiction from Frederick Forsyth to Tom Clancy Michael Shrimpton: He’s one of my favourite authors One of Tom Clancy’s books, The Teeth of the Tiger concerns an “off the books” team of US Government assassins who avoid detection by killing their victims with succynol choline Michael Shrimpton: Now yes there is a reference to Succynol Choline in this book and I think that follows the assassination of David Kelly. Tom Clancy has very good contacts in the intelligence community. It may be that Tom Clancy picked up a loopback from the Kelly assassination. But if the suggestion is that I got succynol choline from a Tom Clancy novel then sorry that won’t wash. Norman Baker’s investigation has led to him meeting a secret contact who has heard a sinister version of what happened to Dr Kelly. Norman Baker MP: He had been told by - a, a friend who was senior in the security services that this was a quote - wet disposal and what is wet disposal I asked him, wet disposal means that it was a hurried job and he was killed in a hurried way, that's apparently what wet disposal means But will Norman Baker’s interest in the security services mean that they take an interest in him? Norman Baker MP: There have been a number of odd instances. I've had e-mail traffic clearly interfered with and messages half erased. One of those was from a former member of MI6, who also had his post interfered with. Norman Baker MP: "Dear Mr Baker I'm not sure what is going on here. I wrote a full message to you. I confirm that I did receive your letter about four weeks after you posted it and it had been blatantly opened in the UK and forwarded in a Royal Mail forwarding envelope. The security services are usually more subtle when they intercept mail". When Norman Baker and Rowena Thursby meet they avoid talking anywhere they might be monitored. Rownena Thursby: Well, I, I tend to assume that I'm being, being bugged. I, I mean I don't know. But I imagine, the arms of government GCHQ they would probably need to keep an eye on um, who was doing what in connection with this case. They're bound to want to know what this group is about. And where we're taking it and whether it can be a further threat to the government. Norman Baker has come to Radio Oxford to publicise his personal inquiry into David Kelly’s death and has to confront the label of conspiracy theorist. BBC Radio Oxford: I’ve been talking to Norman Baker MP .Well the Hutton Inquiry found that Dr Kelly had committed suicide. But some have their doubts and conspiracy theories abound. So where to we go from here? Are you claiming that there are major dark forces and spooks operating out there? Norman Baker MP: Well I’m not using the phrase dark forces, I’m not using the word spooks nor am I by the way using the phrase conspiracy theory which is a very lazy way or journalists in national newspapers to dismiss anyone who questions the official version of events. A conspiracy is two or more people coming together for a common purpose no more no less. You might argue that George Bush and Tony Blair had a conspiracy to invade Iraq. BBC Radio Oxford: And what’s your best suggestion of an alternative explanation. Norman Baker MP: I’ve had leads to do with individuals who were connected with David Kelly and who had particular reasons to wish him not to be there. BBC Radio Oxford: Basil in Northmoor rang in on that one he says it seems a bit like the death of Princess Diana and it’ll never be solved and it makes him think there could indeed be major dark forces at work. Well if you want to get through to the programme it’s your time of day to get things off your chest. Dr Kelly’s friend Alastair Hay believes that it’s because of a lack of confidence in the Hutton Inquiry that questions are still raised about the death of his friend. Alastair Hay, Professor of Toxicology Leeds University: It's correct that these uncertainties are raised about things. And I think that this is a message for coroners in general. And it's a message for anybody who conducts an investigation like this. That you need to inquire you need to have some precision in terms of the information that is provided to the court. Because there are these uncertainties and unless these uncertainties are dealt with at the time then all sorts of speculation will occur. And it's perfectly reasonable for that speculation to occur Professor Peter Tyrer is a clinical psychiatrist and the editor of the British Journal of Psychiatry. He sees conspiracy theories as an inevitable consequence of political news management and spin Prof Peter Tyrer, Professor of Psychiatry Imperial College London: We've recently published a paper in the British Journal of Psychiatry that shows that the ordinary population doesn't trust the Government and institutions when they provide information erm a majority feel they are right to mistrust that at least in the first instance. I think this is really a consequence of the Governments excessive reliance on spin It’s difficult to be conclusive about the conspiracy theories which have grown up about Dr Kelly’s death. Thames Valley Police have never commented publicly on the theories. They say they “found no evidence of any third party involvement in Dr Kelly’s death.” And forensic evidence to the Hutton Inquiry showed no force or violence inflicted by another person. We spoke to a former deputy chief of defence intelligence. John Morrison has worked with MI5 and MI6. We asked him about Richard Spertzel’s theory. Richard Spertzel, UN Weapons Inspector in Iraq 1994-1998: I think David was probably a victim of the Iraqi intelligence service John Morrisson, Deputy Chief of Defence Intelligence 1995 - 1999: Let's use a little bit of common sense here. If Iraqi intelligence had wanted to get rid of David Kelly, where would they have done it? Iraq or the UK. He could have had an accident at any time in Iraq. Very hard to prove it wasn't an accident. Would they really track him down? Others have suggested that Dr Kelly might have been the victim of assassins much closer to home. Are there British agents licensed to kill? John Morrisson, Deputy Chief of Defence Intelligence 1995 - 1999: It is indeed complete fantasy that there are agents that are licensed to kill. There are intelligence agencies around the world who do engage in assassinations, there's no doubt about that. Some of them not very nice people at all. But we have never had a policy of assassination to my knowledge in the history of the UK intelligence agencies. And certainly not in the last few decades. John Morrison also rejects the use of the term wet disposal John Morrison, Deputy Chief of Defence Intelligence 1995 - 1999: Right. I, I've seen the words wet disposal used in fiction to cover assassinations. I've never heard them in my entire professional career except perhaps as a joke. John Morrison, Deputy Chief of Defence Intelligence 1995 - 1999: I can't conceive of anybody or organisation having any motive whatsoever, to kill Dr. Kelly. In a crime such as this you need, traditionally, motive, method, and opportunity. Since there's no motive, this is the rock on which all conspiracy theories founder. Some doctors have raised important medical questions about Dr Kelly’s death that remain unanswered. The Coroner, The Pathologist and the toxicologist to the Hutton Inquiry declined our invitation to speak to this programme. So what do other forensic experts make of those doubts? Dr Allen Anscombe is the President of the British Association in Forensic Medicine. A forensic pathologist with over 20 years experience, who has performed several thousand autopsies. We put to him the point made by vascular surgeon John Scurr Dr Allen Anscombe, President British Association in Forensic Medicine: I don’t believe that simply cutting an ulnar artery will cause death Dr Allen Anscombe, President British Association in Forensic Medicine: Forensic pathologists are biased in terms of seeing what people actually die from, clinicians by and large, the vast majority of their patients don't die. So again, we approach things from a different way and actually see what people really die from. You might argue we don't see what people survive. So I'm quite happy to accept that often severed small to medium sized arteries such as ulnar artery are not fatal, but severings of such an artery can and is occasionally fatal. And if you combine that with somebody who is deceased then you tend to put two and two together The Paramedics say they didn’t see much blood at the scene. Is there any way to establish if Dr Kelly had lost enough blood to have died from haemorrhaging? Dr Allen Anscombe, President British Association in Forensic Medicine: The actual volume of blood given that the person is deceased...um...is likely to be fatal, whatever that volume happens to be. There is not a simple volume which is always fatal and a simple volume which is not. It depends on the rate of bleeding, it depends on your physical condition whilst...before you're bleeding and whilst you're bleeding, depends on a number of factors It’s also suggested that up to five pints of blood need to be lost in order to cause death, and the pathologist who conducted the post– mortem on Dr Kelly in Oxford should have measured the amount of blood lost or the amount remaining. Dr Allen Anscombe, President British Association in Forensic Medicine: There's no simple test to measure the remaining amount of blood in the circulation in, in a dead body. It would be nice if it was possible but unfortunately it's not Sceptics suggest that co-proxamol couldn’t have been a factor in Dr Kelly’s death because the toxicologist to the Hutton inquiry said that the concentrations of co-proxamol found in Dr Kelly were less than is usually fatal. Rowena Thursby: There was a third of what’s usually a fatal amount in his blood Professor Alastair Hay believes the evidence of toxicologist at the Hutton Inquiry wasn’t as detailed as it could have been. Alastair Hay, Professor of Toxicology Leeds Universityy: I think it would have helped if he had said that if you look at deaths involving coproxamol that there is a range of concentrations that you will find in people. Ranging from about a quarter of the value that was found in David to in the case of the one drug propoxyphene, almost forty times as much as as in David. And so you've got that range and David would sit in that range but all be it at the lower end. But it would still give you a measure of reassurance that this sort of level is what you would find in people who have committed suicide. Professor Robert Forrest is Britain’s leading Forensic toxicologist and the president of the Forensic Science Society. He points out that Co- proxamol has been used in many suicides. Prof Robert Forrest, President The Forensic Science Society: At one stage it was accounting for about ten percent of the cases of fatal overdose that we saw. The numbers have dropped off dramatically in the last few years and this is because it has been decided that it will no longer be a licensed preparation available on prescription. The Hutton Inquiry’s toxicologist said that the concentrations of co- proxamol found in Dr Kelly’s blood were lower than the levels that are usually fatal Prof Robert Forrest, President The Forensic Science Society: The concentrations in Dr Kelly's blood are on the low side. We normally see higher concentrations than that in a person who has died of an overdose of Co-Proxamol. But if you've got heart disease - and if there is something else going on like blood loss, then all three of those are going to act together. The overdose of Co-Proxamol, the heart disease and the blood loss I've got no doubt that the - cause of Dr Kelly's death was a combination of blood loss, heart disease and overdose of Co-Proxamol. Not necessarily in that order. If I was going to put it in order I'd put the overdose of Co- Proxamol first. But it's important that all of them had interacted to lead to the death. The key to whether David Kelly was really suicidal was his state of mind. The Hutton Inquiry heard that David Kelly told a colleague he felt “thrown” when the committee asked him about another BBC reporter, Susan Watts. Richard Ottaway, Foreign Affairs Committee 2003: You have confirmed that you have spoken to Susan Watts. Can I take you through the quote again "The 45 minute point was a statement that was made and it got out of all proportion….. David Kelly had told the MoD that he’d met Susan Watts but hadn’t spoken to her about the 45 minute claim. He was told that if new evidence came to light which called into question his account, he might face disciplinary action. The committee twice read out what a source had told her. Richard Ottaway, Foreign Affairs Committee2003: Now there are many people who think that you are the source of that quote. What’s your reaction to that suggestion? I find it very difficult it doesn’t sound like my form of words, it doesn’t sound like a quote from me. You deny that those are your words. Do you deny you were the source of that? Yes David Kelly was the source and must have realised if there was a transcript there might well be a tape, and if there was a tape, that would prove he was the source and he would be exposed as dishonest. Prof Peter Tyrer, Professor of Psychiatry Imperial College London: He was a man who was a stickler for accuracy and it this comes over time and time again and he was also very concerned about being honest and I think he was concerned that this extra information which was tape recorded presumably without his knowledge might have implied that he was a liar and not to be trusted that must have been incredibly damaging for someone of his personality structure When Dr Kelly’s friend Alastair Hay saw him face tough questioning alone in front of the Foreign Affairs Committee, he was very concerned. Andrew Mackinlay MP: You’re under an obligation to reply Alastair Hay, Professor of Toxicology Leeds University: I'd never seen David in a situation where he didn't seem in control and I watched his face - I don't know there was just a look about it that worried me and his hands I was watching his hands too and the way he was holding them and clasping them. This was a very different David that I was seeing and so, um, that made me worried really. You just have to imagine how you would feel under those circumstances where everything that you had done your whole career which you are immensely proud of, and absolutely justifiably because it was a fan- an enormously brilliant record that he had, to think that this might all be in peril. The Government’s treatment of Dr Kelly has angered John Morrison. John Morrison, Deputy Chief of Defence Intelligence 1995 - 1999: Well, speaking personally, I think Dr. Kelly was treated abominably by number ten and my old ministry, the ministry of defence. I think they owed him a duty of care, they could have protected him. They did not only not protect him, they hung him out to dry. And I think that was despicable. On his last morning alive, Dr Kelly sent e-mails to friends saying he’d soon be back in Baghdad. Is that really the action of someone considering suicide? Professor Peter Tyrer has studied Dr Kelly’s emails Prof Peter Tyrer, Professor of Psychiatry Imperial College London: It looked as though the ones on the morning of the 17th were rather stereotyped whereas the earlier emails that he sent in July were much more informative and erm more sort of warmth coming through them and I think that there was a certain detachment of those emails on the morning of the 17th of July which made me think that he'd already decided that he was going to take his own life when he was writing those As well as sending e-mails David Kelly was receiving them. One was about an MP who had asked a parliamentary question about what disciplinary action the MoD was going to take against him. He took a knife he’d had since childhood on his last walk towards Harrowdown Hill Prof Peter Tyrer, Professor of Psychiatry Imperial College London: He was a person who liked to be in control and it was clear from the last few days of his life that he felt he was losing control. The uncertainty for someone who is highly meticulous the uncertainty of what might happen it’s almost worse than the certainty of something terrible happening. He didn’t actually know how it was going to pan out and I think that must have been extremely alarming for him. So I think it’s that combination that really led to the suicide. “He had a broken heart. He had shrunk into himself”. Mrs Kelly told the Hutton Inquiry. She hasn’t spoken to this programme but she told Rowena Thursby she has no doubts that her husband took his own life. Rowena Thursby: I spoke to Mrs Kelly on the phone. And, and she felt that her husband had in fact, committed suicide. But that, that was her strong belief. But you know, people can believe things very strongly but it doesn't mean to say that they're actually true. So I feel that we have to pursue we have to find out what happened to David Kelly. Norman Baker is also determined to continue and will not be deterred when he is labelled a conspiracy theorist. Norman Baker MP: I fully expected to be attacked in a careless and undefined way, which is what that is. But I think in politics if politics is to mean anything at all you have to do what you think is right. If you’re going to go through politics upsetting nobody achieving nothing playing safe and getting your MBE at the end or your seat in the house of lords what is the point of being in politics you’ve got to take some difficult decisions you’ve got to do what you think is right. David Kelly’s friends want him to be remembered for the enormous contribution he made with his career. Alastair Hay, Professor of Toxicology Leeds University: I would hope conspiracy theories don't get in the way of us remembering David. For me he was an outstanding scientist, he was somebody at the peak of his profession. I don't know of a biological warfare expert in the world who was better than David. So he's made the world a much safer place because he's told us what countries can do if they set their minds to it and what you need to do to protect yourself. So for me he was a good friend, he was an absolute professional, ah, and he was someone that we owe a great debt to, and that's how he should be remembered http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_David_Kelly

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